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[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 20 insightful - 7 fun20 insightful - 6 fun21 insightful - 7 fun -  (8 children)

I've read from a book somewhere that when you selectively breed foxes to become loyal and dog-like, they start evolving color patches and curled ears just like dogs', implying these genes are all connected.

I may not be the 'transphobe' Richard Dawkins but I'm not sure this is how evolution works.

Yeah people get confused when I tell them I’m a lesbian. They must think estrogen makes you like men. I’m like “fuck I don’t even like my own penis let alone anyone else’s”

🤢

Edit: I guess I was wrong about the genetics thing. I wanted to feel superior to the wokesters and you will not TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME

[–]szalinskikidproblematic androphile 19 insightful - 10 fun19 insightful - 9 fun20 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

Oh I'd love to see his reaction when confronted with a nice female girl-dique :) He better not be a disgusting genital fetishist!

[–]lunarstrain 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The first part regarding foxes (only the fox stuff, not anything related to gender) is true. It's called Domestication syndrome.

Domestication syndrome refers to two sets of changed phenotypic traits common to many domesticated organisms: Those in domesticated animals, and those in domesticated plants. In animals these traits may include floppy ears, variations to coat colour, a smaller brain, and a shorter muzzle.

The second part is just sad and repugnant. No one should hate their natural genitals.

[–]HelloMomo 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Broadly speaking, the idea that homosexuality and other traits might be linked is not baseless. For example, homosexuality and gender non-conformity seem to be linked.

But homosexuals of one sex, and heterosexuals of the other sex, are not the same demographic. They're not linked.

[–]lunarstrain 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Completely agree.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

you contradicted yourself

only the fox stuff, not anything related to gender) is true.

smaller brain

is true

[–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unfortunately some people have a legitimate reason to, but that's an entirely separate thing at this point.

[–]Bright_paintingLoad, lesbian biologist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They did selective breeding on the foxes, and so they managed to make them look and act like dogs. Those genes are not connected. (There is however a fascinating phenomenon where a bit of the genetic code gets inverted and thus the inverted genes are connected, but this isn't the mechanisms behind the fox experiment.)

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've read from a book somewhere that when you selectively breed foxes to become loyal and dog-like, they start evolving color patches and curled ears just like dogs', implying these genes are all connected.

I actually know about this! Yeah, this experiment (conducted in Novosibirsk, Siberia, since about 1952) on silver foxes-- a dark color mutation of the red fox-- was, and apparently still is, a real thing. Though I'd define its purpose somewhat differently: testing whether selectively breeding for tameness (or more properly neoteny, of which tameness is an outgrowth) could also cause changes in a species's morphology (physical structure), as was posited had been the case with domestic dogs.

For those of us who are interested in genetics, animals, and especially neoteny (which has profound implications for humans), this is all very cool... but what the hell has it got to do with trans bullshit??? Yeah, the experiment confirmed that the presence of a more neotenous brain (i.e., one that retains juvenile characteristics-- such as docility ["tameness"], but also plasticity, the source of learning ability, and thus human intelligence-- in adulthood) causes more neotenous physical traits to manifest... and so... uh... trans people have more neotenous brains and look younger than their age... or something...? Yeah, I have no idea. And I doubt that this dude-with-ladyfeelz Redditor does either.

Link for the experiment, in case anyone's sufficiently intrigued: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox