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[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You might try finding some older LGB folks to hang with online. Can't say I would have a recommendation for how to do that, but once you get into certain age ranges (45+, perhaps), you should run into more people who aren't quite as gullible. Also, more conservative people, if you can navigate that. They are not as likely to shove TRA stuff into interactions, on the whole, in my experience.

But you are under no obligation to out yourself as being critical either. Sometimes it's just nice to have people around who are decent to you and not worry about whether or not they are enlightened yet. This is something of a waiting game for a lot of us. Some of those you meet, either way, are going to peak at some point. In the meantime...go stealth and have some company, if you can stomach it. It's not like being critical of TRA BS is a body part anyone will notice you having and shun you for having. They can't see it unless you let them.

Right now, I'd just say—don't let them, and realize that some of these friendships will be limited in scope, but that doesn't make them not worth spending time with. It just won't be as deep or as open.

I have quite a few friends in this category. They mostly just don't know better. But they also aren't the rabid enabler types—I'd steer clear of those once you find out that's what they are.

There's no easy answer—I'd say give the ones who seem genuinely sincere a little slack and just sound concerned and agreeable if trans stuff comes up. You don't need to get into a big deep convo about it—if they want to do that then it might be safer to just fade out or get "busy" with other stuff (or in the moment...since this is online...you can "not see" a message, have a computer glitch, need to attend to IRL stuff, have a task you forgot you have to do—whatever innocuous thing ends that conversation). But some people just bring trans issues up and then don't say much about them. It's just something in the air that gets mentioned.

[–]stunaep 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Conservatives are no friend of L&G, nor any adjacent bisexuals...

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Depends on the conservatives (and—we have some here as far as I know, so I don't think we can make that a blanket statement). I've met a few who are. They also tend to be terribly confused about some aspects of reality in other ways, though, so it's a strange mix. Just as it is strange when lefties see some things clearly while also gulping TRA sauce.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

there are lgb conservatives

[–]Mikulbleu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So you’re saying me, a gay conservative hates myself? Am I talking to a tra? I forgot that groups of people are all the same and all generalizations are true