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[–]reluctant_commenter 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I was talking to someone the other day about how AHS on Reddit has organized and encouraged harassment, brigading, and doxxing behaviors directed at users and forums that don't support gender identity ideology. They told me that they had heard of something similar happening with... pitbull dog legislation. What? They linked me to this post about it. I'm just surprised because so many of the tactics described in this post-- getting users banned from other subreddits just because they participate in one disliked subreddit, brigading, doxxing, making a whole private Discord server devoted to planning how to get a subreddit banned-- are the same tactics that extremist TRAs use.

Has anyone else here heard of this...? I'm inclined to guess that this isn't as big a conflict as the one surrounding transgender ideology, but then again, I'm new to this topic.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is an interesting find. Funny enough I was talking to a friend the other day who said he had recently changed his mind about pitbulls (from thinking they were misunderstood and that the real problem was bad owners to thinking the breed was inherently dangerous). I noted in that conversation that the breed attracts a type of owner that likes them for their threatening nature and also a type of owner that is attracted to them specifically because they think they're misunderstood and want to rehabilitate their public image. I am not at all surprised that the latter category includes a sizeable number of TRA queer ideologue type people who get off on the idea of subverting societal norms and telling people they need to re-educate themselves.

To be clear I'm not saying that all or most people who think pitbulls are misunderstood are like that. I have a cousin who owns pitbulls and he's a harmless, empathetic softie. I also know people who have had serious injuries from pitbulls. I haven't personally researched pitbulls but I know they have strong jaws that can do more damage than most dogs if applied to human flesh and I also know that purebred dogs were selectively bred to have certain personality, behavioral, and physical traits so it would not surprise me if certain breeds have certain problematic behavioral traits endemic to them.

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts (I'm way late to respond to this discussion that I started, lol; that's my bad). I agree with your points; I think a lot of people who have sympathy for pitbulls aren't at all just trying to posture and signal for social brownie points, they genuinely feel bad for the dogs and want to help them. But a certain vocal minority of pitbull advocates do seem pretty extreme...

Really fascinating-- and honestly I'm glad-- to see that multiple other people on this sub have noticed the parallel between the two topics! I never would have thought to make a connection between TRAs and pitbull owners had it not been pointed out to me.

I haven't personally researched pitbulls but I know they have strong jaws that can do more damage than most dogs if applied to human flesh

Yeah I'm honestly not sure that it's a physical advantage so much as a psychological one; they've been bred selecting for aggressive traits. It's pretty disturbing, but so many accounts of pitbull attacks seem to involve the dog wagging its tail and seeming excited in a positive, happy way, even while it's mauling someone. Whereas the majority of dogs would not have that sort of emotion while attacking someone, and typically would attack out of self-defense or if they felt threatened.