Indoctrination / DoublethinkAskGayBros has a very rigid and exclusively sex based idea of being Gay - what an outrage

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[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 22 insightful - 16 fun22 insightful - 15 fun23 insightful - 16 fun -  (1 child)

To preface, I am a gay man who has been attracted to two trans men in my short 18 years, because I have conceptually only ever known them as a man, one literally has prominent facial hair. So where does the difference lay between me and the people at AskGayBros who's only idea of being gay is whether there's a piece of flesh between their legs?

Beard = literally a man, genitals = just piece of flesh

[–]wondername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Isn't that, like, a clear sign of cognitive dissonance?

[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'd like to see what that 18-year-old gay man would say after actually having sex with a trans man.

I've seen trans men that I think are surface level attractive, because they are hyper-masculine and I am attracted to masculinity. When I find out they have a vagina between their legs, I can still find them surface level attractive but I don't want to have sex with them anymore, because I am a gay man and have no interest in putting my dick in a vagina.

The fact that there are people out there that actively attempt to look like the other sex in an elaborate form of deception doesn't mean that I have to have sex with (or even enter a long-term relationship with) them if I thought they were cute before I realized that they were actually women, similar to the fact that I am not obligated to enter a relationship with some actual man that I think is hot and then I find out that we have nothing in common and he's actually a terrible person.

Congratulations, young gay! You've been deceived by women who believe that they are men, and found yourself surface level attracted to them. That doesn't make you a good person.

[–]Dromedary 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I utterly disbelieve that this was written by a gay man, it overwhelmingly sounds like it was written by an AFAB trans man (aka a female). Such a long comment is the first tipoff. And oh, complaining about gay men? Where have we ever seen that before, gosh. All this flowery drivel about dates and flowers and holding hands - I mean, please. A woman larping as a gay man wrote this. No gay dude is going to refer to his own dick sneeringly and dismissively as a mere "piece of flesh". We actually quite like our dicks and at 18 we're pretty horny. Something that's absent from this. Like a lot of young women deluded into thinking they're not women, there's a fear of sex (which is fine) but boy, do they talk about it a lot. I mean, WHAT a lecture this 18 year old gave us about ALL the sexualities like an expert. Comical. Typical.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I looked into his posting history and it's boy. I say boy because he seems like one of those sweet and sheltered kids with music instruments and who goes on trips with the parents.

He's a romantic virgin boy who probably has never seen a vagina up close. He's not out to himself for that long. He probably still has some stuff to work through by realising he's gay.

[–]Dromedary 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see. Not a gay man then, ha. A boy as you say. I dunno, he sounds like he's brainwashed from being constantly online and absorbing a lot of "lessons" from the gendergoblin bluehair teenz how he should be. Sad really.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 25 insightful - 4 fun25 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Being gay is to love men full stop. I can not feel any attraction to a woman.

Yes, exactly! This feeling isn't going to change just because the woman grows a beard and larps as a man!!! And it doesn't need to, there is nothing wrong with being gay.

I do not feel at all comfortable with doing traditionally romantic things with a woman. Holding a woman's hand, buying her flowers on Valentines day, and going on a date with her are entirely foreign concepts to me (despite having done them) which I can not enjoy. The thought of domesticity with a woman is full of dread. But with a man? With a man the sun shines; my hand holding the hand of another man feels like that's what my hand was made for. Going on a date with a man, having intimate conversation and shared laughter fills me with both a giddy nervousness and a genuine love for my situation. I can envision myself waking up in the morning next to a husband, getting ready for work, then unwinding with him in the evening.

Yes, this is homosexuality.

And the man being trans has nothing to do with any of that.There are trans men infinitely more "masculine" than plenty of cis gay men, and if I'm attracted to those cis men, why would I not be attracted to a trans man who I would have no idea was trans unless he told me? The simple matter is that humans can pretty much get base sexual arousal from something they're not personally attracted to, as some weirdo was yelling about here a few weeks ago.

How do they go from "the thought of being with a woman fills me with dread" to "but I'd do it if she pretends to be a man"?!? 🤨🤯 Trans is held together by the fact that many of these youth who support the movement have never had sex/serious relationships and think that dating is all holding hands, fun adventures and keeping the clothes on at all times. How else could a gay man really believe being with a medically altered woman is the same as being with another man.

[–]ks00 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I can envision myself waking up in the morning next to a husband, getting ready for work, then unwinding with him in the evening.

Yes and imagine waking up next to your 'husband' and realising he has female genitals, female bone structure, fat distribution, pheromones and trying to convince yourself he's a man just because (s)he can grow a shitty beard.

[–]Mermer 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes exactly, the youth culture villainizes sex. It's such a norm to crave a romantisized version of relationships and they think that not being sexual makes them morally superior. No. You don't have to crave a romantic relationship or feel ashamed for craving sex especially if it's only with people who you're attracted to.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Our modern porn saturated culture is influencing this; teens no longer get to have their first sexual experiences be awkward private moments with peers and friends, instead kids are being "introduced" to porn at younger and younger ages and the porn is getting exponentially more violent, perverted and brutal. Ofc these young folks villanize sex, their only experience of it has been through violent misogynistic porn-soaked media!! I would too :(

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Idk about that. The zoomers I've interacted with seem to be quite interested in sex. They are also often very crass about it. Unless we are talking about a post zoomer trend.

[–]jim_steak 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Straight men can be, on a base level, turned on by men and vice versa for all combinations. But that doesn't make those men bisexual or gay, because biological instinct aside they'll probably not have any romantic or deep feeling towards men anyways.

Could it be any more obvious that this guy is bisexual? What has happened in the last ten years or so that many bisexuals now believe that everyone is bisexual?

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What has happened in the last ten years or so that many bisexuals now believe that everyone is bisexual?

I don't think they do; it's more like the opposite-- they now believe that NOBODY is bisexual (including them). Because of the assumption that there's no such thing. Which, thanks to the rise of transology, is now more prevalent than ever. Therefore, they must be either straight or gay. So that means straight and gay can include attraction to both sexes (after all, it does for them!). Just change the definition of monosexuality, and/or throw in some bullshit about sexuality-is-fluid/open-mindedness, and voila! No one has those shameful so-called "genital preferences" any more... and no one is bisexual, either. Two pernicious lies for the price of one! :(

[–]dilsencySame-sex community 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right? They will be telling you that your sexuality is fluid.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

because homosexuality is not inclusive and sjw's worship on the alter of inclusivity. Imagine, a whole magical sexuality that includes everyone!! Bi=2 and everyone else

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 9 fun12 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

There are so many posts on the sub of either someone asking if anyone is attracted to trans men, or someone saying they're dating a trans men, which get brigaded by people saying that's called bisexual.

Wait ... is he really trying to say that the shitpost swarms of TTTT are actual real members of AGB, and it's the regular members and subscribers that are brigading?

Is this real life?

[–]Mermer 12 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Being gay is to love men

Not to inaccurately describe a group I'm not a part of but from my observations no one hates men more than people who are attracted to them.

[–]WanderingWonderWizard Extraordinaire 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What do these people have against being bi? Noting wrong with bisexuality. Why do they always have to deny it and make it sound like it’s dirty?

[–]sadbihours 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because they don’t want to admit that a lot of people still see bi as “half-straight” and “straight people are evil” so if you’re not labeled as gay or lesbian you don’t get that oppression status. It’s really just that.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oppression status is a huge problem. I'll bet that all these teens who "iDeNtIfY aS nOn-BiNaRy" and use they/them do so just for the oppression points. If you look at any main gender community on Reddit, you'll see that easily most, if not all, of the posts are teens nitpicking their gender so they can be cool.

[–]Mermer 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Because bisexuality doesn't validate the gender specials

[–]chandra 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not wrong to say 'I like penis', but it is wrong to say 'I like penis, and therefore I don't like trans men.' because you're assuming all trans men don't have penises, which isn't true.

These people are so delusional. Phalloplasty is not a penis. No-one who has ever interacted with a real penis would think so. This could only be convincing if you see a penis as nothing more than a stick that goes in a hole. So it could only be convincing to a female virgin (or selfish lover, I guess).

[–]fuck_reddit 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being attracted to a trans ‘man’ is not “loving men”, it is being attracted to the caricature of men.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And the delusional comments keep on coming

[–]hufflepuff-poet 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here's one of the most delusional;

Considering the second was r/SapphoAndHerFriend, information hierarchy definitely wasn't their priority. If a person were cynical, they might even think deliberately misordered.

Don't get me wrong, it's a sub that's mostly fun and moderately harmless, especially compared to AGB; but it's not really an LGBT sub any more than r/OneJoke is.

Just had such an energy of....

"Check out our LGBT subs! This one's full of homophobic gay men! That one has lesbians reposting the same two jokes about erasure. I'm sure there are others! I wouldn't know, I'm straight."

Damn those homophobic gay men who want...checks notes to be left alone to do and discuss gay stuff with other male homosexuals?! Darn those evil lesbians complaining about double checks notes...being erased and ostracized from their own community for being exclusively same-sex attracted?!

I wouldn't know, I'm straight.

This is the most honest thing they've said.

[–]nbailey73 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All they fucking do is whine and cry.

[–]stunaep 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This guy thinks "romantic orientation" is biological. Incredible.