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[–]motss-pb 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

http://australianhumanitiesreview.org/1996/07/01/on-global-queering/

According to Dennis Altman, the "queering" of gay and lesbian studies had already begun by 1993. Among the authors listed on the cover of that book are Gayle Rubin, Eve Sedgwick, and Judith Butler (major authors of queer theory).

much of what has become known as ‘queer theory’ appears remarkably unaware of the history and writings of gay liberation, which is sometimes depicted as essentialist, despite a body of gay liberation work which explicitly drew on Freudian notions of polymorphous perversity.16 By 1995, I could read an honours thesis which spoke as if such notions had never occurred to anyone in the gay movement and were the discovery of French intellectuals writing ten years after the early debates in the sexual liberation movements. Even as carefully produced a book as the massive Lesbian & Gay Studies Reader(Routledge 1993, edited by Henry Abelove, Michele Barale and David Halperin) managed to find no room in its 666 pages for a discussion of the gay/lesbian movement nor of politics understood in the mainstream sense of institutions, elections, organisations and lobbying.

[–]JulienMayfair[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I do own the book mentioned, and the criticism is valid.

The Queer Theorists never had the patience to do proper History with a capital 'H' because it was too much work. When they drew on history, it was only in ways cherry-picked to support the arguments they were already making.

There was, at the same time, a kind of ethnographic model of gay/lesbian history going on, written by people like George Chauncey and Lillian Faderman.

[–]Dromedary 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

George Chauncey's "Gay New York" was so brilliant and magisterial when I read it so many years ago in the 90s. Really invaluable scholarship. So it's with some dismay I see the updated edition has this huge new introduction that is one long tortured mea culpa apology for not centering The Trans in the book. All the writing about cross-dressing gay men (and boys) in NYC from the late 19th century on? Yeah, they were ALL Trans now, he writes and he is SO sorry he says. He flagellates himself, saying when he was researching the book for over a decade, it was a different time, the 80s. And no one talked about the trans.

So if a respected scholar spends 15 years writing a groundbreaking gay history and the concept of "trans" doesn't even OCCUR to him, what does that say about the wild claim that trans people have ALWAYS been a big part of history, ALWAYS existed?

[–]DimDroog 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

SON OF A BISCUIT!

NEVER give in to these bullies!

The erasing gay and lesbian people from history, that to me is really alarming.

Feels like it's step one in erasing present day LGB people.