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[–]BootsAndBeards 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

This entire website is basically dedicated subs that got ran off reddit, many of those happen to include right wing cesspits full of incels. Most of the commenters there are lonely young men on the fringes of society and lashing out at all of the perceived wrongs against them. That particular post reads almost as fetish material.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Most of the commenters there are lonely young men on the fringes of society a

To be fair, dating in USA as an het men seems really hell on earth. Women in decent physical shapes are a minority, american women seem also fucking demanding as fuck and height obsessed to a ridicolous degree. But really bitching doesn't solve anything. They should go to Philippines or Mexico where women are less demanding and hotter, to find gf's

[–]BootsAndBeards 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most men here don't look any better than the women, and I know plenty of short guys who do well with women, guys who aren't even doing that well for themselves to be honest. What they should do is pick up some weights, work a on decent career, and get themselves out there. Most people end up with people similar to themselves. If a man doesn't like 'any of the women he can get' he needs to look inward and make himself into a man that is desired.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're right on that. The difference is that men are supposed to put the effort in dating, the ones doing the first move or expected to pay. And when women are too demanding, it can be quite annoying for them. Especially today on dating apps, with so much competition. So, I get their frustration, but they act like women own them sex and incels go crazy about wanting to oppress women so that they will be forced to be with them. They could get cute non fat women by using american privileged passport abroad, if they struggled in USA. But they prefer to spew misogynistic nonsense instead.

[–]theytookourjerbsXX only. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fun fact: majority of the developed world are less likely to be in good shape, and Mexico has an obesity problem as well. https://europepmc.org/articles/PMC5523552/table/T2/ United States (Women): 81.9 (79.8–83.8) United Kingdom (Women): 77.2 (75.7–78.6) New Zealand (Women): 80 (77.8–82.2)
Italy (Women): 61.4 (58.9–64.2) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7434327/

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

american women seem also fucking demanding as fuck and height obsessed to a ridicolous degree

Hey, not all of us :)

I don't really get the height obsession thing, though. I've heard not only straight women but many bi/gay women express that they want to date a woman taller than them. I don't have a strong preference myself.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I was talking more about american hetero women being demanding. I don't think is possible for a lesbian to be demanding nearly as much as an het woman, even if she wanted to, stats just don't help shallow princesses types.

The importance on height comes from a very sexist cultural idea of height meaning masculinity or dominance. Like the idea of equating dominance with tallness and submission with shortness, which is universal coming from chimp mind, BUT is crazy strong in USA. And also reflected by the fact president always taller than normal, can't be a coincidence.

And of course as someone who has nothing submissive about herself, quite assertive by nature, would hate to be equated as such for something out of my control.

In Italy height is seen as easthetic thing, like having longer legs, not a masculine dominance thing. But in general latin culture aren't particular heightist and women aren't nearly height obsessed like americans women.

USA has also the shitty possible traits: super sexist gender roles ideas from 1950's (reason why gender ideology is so strong), seeing relationship or sex as power dynamic things, super heighist, strong racial tension, poitical correctness to extreme but not on everything, fat glorification , people interacting in a overthetop friendly way, taught to smile like retards, which just comes off as annoying , invasive and extremist; but that entire culture is extremist about anything.

Overall I'm just glad I'm not from there. And if there are a lot of sad men in USA, it isn't their only fault, it's the fault of a sick culture.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

people interacting in a overthetop friendly way, taught to smile like retards, which just comes off as annoying , invasive and extremist; but that entire culture is extremist about anything.

The US is a culture of exclamation marks and CAPITALIZED actions/reactions. And I think much of it rubbed off as the shoe of Canadian culture, even when it didn't fit the foot at all. One of these is the "conversion therapy" bill that passed through Parliament. The idea for laws criminalizing conversion therapy is mainly a consequence of the extremist religiosity in parts of the US and the also extremist reactions to it, that have been projected onto many other countries and has now been used as a template for Canadian laws.

It is ill-fitting, considering the respective timelines for the progressive milestones don't overlap particularly closely due to the relatively lack of theistic dominance in Canada. An example is how same-sex marriage passed into law 16 years ago without much opposition or hubbub. It also wasn't immediately followed by an explosion of gender ideology development until it also occurred South of the border. That's when the opportunists made their move.

In short, the culturally adjacent nations gotta stop automatically taking their cues from the US in such a reflexive manner. Some stronger sense of nationalism might help with this. Canada is pretty weak with this due to all the separatist sentiments coming from the East and the West. The physically larger the "empire", the more difficult it is to get "unity" and enforce any central mandates. This might explain why vast territories that are not blessed with resources/riches that the government can lay claim to and then bribe their overly dispersed citizens with, eventually have such overbearing central authorities, almost and oftentimes devolving into regimes in order to survive.

But anyway, there's a book I read once called, Brightsided, which talks about the smiling and positivity habit ingrained in American(and perhaps North American) culture.

I'm not much of a smiler or positive thinker(as my previous passage may indicate), so I easily took to this book as a reaction to all the people around me telling me I wasn't doing remotely enough of either. My attitude towards the former habit has always been: "I'll smile when I'm happy. It's supposed to be a emotional highlight and spontaneous. If I did it all the time it won't mean a thing anymore and the insincerity will show in my smile. And who wants that?"

On the other end of the spectrum, one of my friends normally smiles "too much", and it can get confusing sometimes if I'm not paying enough attention to their other cues to notice that they may be in a bad mood and I'm suddenly walking on egg shells. It's also problematic because I think sometimes they can inadvertently annoy other people with their habit like you said, which I tried hinting to them on occasion.

I should also note that a similar attitude exists to keep people conversing, even when one doesn't want to. You're not just allowed to be quiet and not "contribute". Because then there MUST be something wrong with you and you're gonna shoot up a school or something bad of course. It couldn't be that the person just prefers to talk with people they are familiar with and in smaller groups. And don't get me started on the emphasis on pointless small talk.