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[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

lol "There's no perfect definition"

There freaking used to be!

Honestly, as a gay man, I've always been fine with "gay" being an umbrella term that included lesbians (while at the same time being a bit jealous that gay men didn't really have a term like "lesbian" that we could claim), but trying to turn "lesbian" into an umbrella term that includes straight relationships is just disgusting to me.

[–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

(while at the same time being a bit jealous that gay men didn't really have a term like "lesbian" that we could claim)

Really? I always wished that there was never a word specifically for homosexual women, lol. Funny how perspectives can differ, I guess.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you don't mind me asking, why do you dislike that homosexual women have a unique name?

[–]soundsituationI myself was once a gay 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not the person you asked, but since I'm of a similar mind I'll give you my reason. Both 'gay' and 'bi' work as adjectives; lesbian doesn't, not in English anyway, and not in any language that I'm aware of. I think that when a descriptor takes noun form it's far more likely to be seen, and felt, as an identity category. It's the subtle difference between "I run" or "I like to run" and "I'm a runner"; there's a sense of persona with the noun version where I think a lot more is assumed beyond the essential qualities. I'm not against all identity categories and in fact do sometimes use them to describe myself, but usually only when it's something I'm really proud of, usually something that's been earned, or else when it's a simple convention of the language for which there's no legitimate replacement. I'm not ashamed of being attracted to women but I'm not proud of it either. It just is. So when I do tell people I either say that I'm gay or that I date women. But what usually happens is I mention I'm seeing someone, they assume it's a guy, and I correct them and we move on.