ColonizationYour right to say no ends where my vagina begins - "Having sex with me is not largely different from having sex with any other gay man."

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[–]JulienMayfair 32 insightful - 9 fun32 insightful - 8 fun33 insightful - 9 fun -  (6 children)

How did not wanting to have sex with human beings from one community in particular become a legitimate preference?

I think my brain just short-circuited. How can someone write something this absurd and not realize the absurdity of it? How did we get to the point where someone not being sexually attracted to you is a civil rights issue? Is this the autism talking? Or is it more pathological narcissism? I mean, I know someone with Asperger's and have seen him struggle to understand other people's feelings, but this is some truly next-level emotional illiteracy at work.

In any event, JUST KEEP TALKING, SWEETHEART. You're only digging yourself a deeper hole, and not one I'm interested in getting anywhere near.

NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO HAVING OTHER PEOPLE WANTING TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU.

[–]wendyokoopa1 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I wish people would stop lumping autism in with these narcissists. Sure we struggle with understanding people and their emotional needs but most of these people are socially, emotionally bankrupt narcissists. Not autistic or aspegerian.

[–]JulienMayfair 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I get what you're saying, and I apologize if I caused offense; however, statistically, there is an unusually high percentage of people with high-functioning autism who are getting drawn into trans ideology.

And I've seen my friend with autism do all sorts of intellectual reasoning about other people's behavior that sounds logical the way he lays it out, but I listen to it with a sinking feeling, knowing that he's coming to all the wrong conclusions because even though he's very smart in many ways, he doesn't have an intuitive understanding of how other people's feelings work. It often ends in tragic situations for him.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it might also be the prevalence of co-mordbidities in autistic people. Most have some kind of mental depression or anxiety (I certainly do), not to mention social isolation that may be as a result of the co-morbidities or because of our difference in behaviour.

As a result, when they see how accepted and championed trans people are, and add in a dash of autistic gender-nonconformism due to not having an inherent feeling of what is expected of X or Y gender, they're easily sucked into the ideology since they think they'll finally belong somewhere and understand themselves better.

I personally thought I was genderfluid and demisexual for a hot minute in high school, and even thought at one point that I was a trans man because I preferred to wear men's clothing, which is generally more comfortable than womenswear. I fear for the me who might've been born ten years later, where I would've told that yes indeed I was a transman and I would've damaged myself beyond repair.

[–]wendyokoopa1 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I can understand all that and yeah everything you're saying does break my Heart. The brain washing of high functioning seems plausible as I've under gone brain washing to another degree. So I can understand all that. It's just frustrating.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's not an attack on autism or autistic people.

[–]wendyokoopa1 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No I got brain washed in my 20s to hate my mom. Autistics can sadly be very trusting and naive.

[–][deleted] 29 insightful - 9 fun29 insightful - 8 fun30 insightful - 9 fun -  (2 children)

Think about what’s really preventing you from engaging with certain people.

No.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 27 insightful - 9 fun27 insightful - 8 fun28 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

Think about what’s really preventing you from engaging with certain people.

Since they specifically mean "engaging sexually with certain people", how 'bout complete and utter lack of sexual attraction?

There, that was easy! :)

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Lol, my rebuttal would be;

"think about what's really preventing you from engaging with reality and acknowledging you're not actually a homosexual man and never will be :)"

[–]CaptainMooseEx-Bathhouse Employee 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Part of the reason why people often don’t want to have sex with transgender people is that they don’t know what that sex would look like.

Oh, I know what sex with a biological woman looks like. You REALLY don't know the adolescent and young adult experiences of gay men when we are trying so hard to look for even a shred of opposite-sex attraction through pornography or, god forbid, actual relationships with biological women. Intimacy with the opposite sex doesn't just feel bad because of her genitalia or breasts- her hands, fingers, feet, toes, mouths, etc. all feel wrong.

Sometimes, they’re not even sure what trans bodies look like without their clothes.

I can assure you that many of us have seen trans bodies naked, often in an attempt to try and be "good" people or to see if we could be opposite sex attracted toward a masculine enough woman.

This year has the highest number of deaths on record for trans and gender diverse people, most of them transfeminine people and sex workers. The statistics we hear are hammered in our brains, sometimes long before we even come out or realise we’re transgender. It’s hard to thrive when you’re afraid of being the next one. And that means we rarely take risks. When safe to do so, the disclosure happens quite early on, before entering a bedroom, before meeting up for the first time after matching on a dating app. We'd rather out ourselves than be killed. It’s always easier to assume someone isn’t safe for us than the opposite. So, what might be a simple question of ‘sexual preference’ to some is a matter of life and death for us.

Regardless of who she is, it is not her place to appropriate the deaths of black and brown homosexual transsexuals. They get killed by predatory johns who knew what these men's biological sex was and are trying to hide their same-sex sexual activities because of the risk it has on their "straight" life. She has no reason to be afraid of being the "next one" because she is, by her own admission, asexual. On top of that, she is a well established middle class white woman. She is not a lower class, impoverished, racialized gay man. She still is at risk for sexual violence, however, but so are these men on top of the other struggles they face.

[–]jim_steak 20 insightful - 9 fun20 insightful - 8 fun21 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

“No trans people” cannot be a preference, because the only characteristic shared by all trans people is transness.

"No redheads" cannot be a preference, because the only characteristic shared by all redheads is redheadedness.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What is "transness"?! Is it medical transition, social transition or simply declaring yourself "emperor of everyone else's bedroom"?!

You cannot have a cohesive social group if there are no clear definitions on who is included and who is excluded, otherwise the social group is default all humans and we have a word for that already, humanity.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Someone is funding this shit. Dark money is coming from somewhere to push TRA doublethink into the mainstream. This is not organic.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree 100%. It's the same money that is stoking racial hatred, hatred of middle and working classes, and a few other programs of demoralization. I'm not quite sure who, but I am certain it is an organized program.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are several trans billionaires behind it

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not just about money. There are a number of factors coming together to create this monster. The 2018 book "The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure" by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt is a great read, which expands on their article in the Atlantic in 2015. The book doesn't focus on gender identity exclusively but does address the way that gender ideology and pronouns have been treated in education, which the authors argue has origins in three "great untruths": (1) "What doesn't kill you makes you weaker"; (2) "always trust your feelings"; and (3) "life is a battle between good people and evil people" Gender ideology as an issue should not be analyzed entirely separately and without regard for companion issues like critical race theory, which are part of the same cultural zeitgeist.

[–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 14 insightful - 13 fun14 insightful - 12 fun15 insightful - 13 fun -  (1 child)

Wait... this article doesn't exist. Because nobody ever says that.

[–]ThrowMeAway2879 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Reality really has to be twisted into a pretzel by now, considering how often this thing that never happens, happens.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 16 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

This one is forever coming out as one letter or another and whining about it.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 12 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

And whining and whining and...

[–]DimDroog 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do they survive the day?

[–]pacmanla 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Again, this is not a civil rights issue. Gay men don't want to sleep with you, because you're FEMALE!!! I miss the times when gay, lesbian, & straight, meant what was to be implied. Gay men are same-sex attracted. If you are a female, then gay men need not apply. Again, this whining, & article writeups, will not change 99.5% of society's sexuality being sex based. It just won't & this continuously charade of trying to make it a civil rights issue is laughable.

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I really miss the days when nonsense like this would be labeled as the call for conversion rape/"therapy" garbage it actually is and dragged through the mud, with the creators tarred and feathered. Not celebrated or touted as "correct", "progressive", etc.

[–]Virginia_Plain 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

She tells her readers that their lack of interest can only come from a place of bigotry, ignorance, or cowardice, and then pleas that we recognize her needs, desires, and agency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFpSar7AifU

[–]julesburm1891 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish I could love this. Truly one of the best albums.

[–]julesburm1891 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How did not wanting to have sex with human beings from one community in particular become a legitimate preference?

So, you’re saying lesbians and straight men not wanting to have sex with men is problematic? You’re saying gay men and straight women not wanting to have sex with women is problematic? Huh. Okay.

Let’s take sex out of it now. Anyone who says they don’t want to have sex with children, mentally retarded people, people with contagious STIs, family members, etc. are problematic? Because you said “human beings from one community in particular” and each of those groups are definitely “human beings from one community in particular.”

Part of the reason people often don’t want to have sex with transgender people is that they don’t know what the sex would look like.

Of course it could have nothing to do with trans people not being the sex a person is into.

it reveals how most people see trans people: as a porn category, a fetish

I’ll just say it. Wanting to fuck someone with mixed-sex characterizes isn’t normal for any orientation. It is a fetish. The trans community knows this because they flip their lid when people actually want them. They know damn well it’s only to fulfill a fetish.

When it comes to trans people, one of the most daunting and harmful stereotypes is the belief that trans people are sexual predators, trying to coerce people into having sex with them

Yet you’ve written an entire article doing just that.

This year has had the highest number of deaths on record for trans and gender diverse people, most of them transfeminine people and sex workers.

Yes. Prostitution is an incredibly dangerous job where workers are often raped, abused, and/or murdered. With that in mind, trans people are still one of the least likely demographics to be murdered in the USA.

the only characteristic shared by all trans people is transness.

All transwomen are male. All transmen are female. All trans people share the characteristic of trying to present as the opposite sex.

Think about what’s really preventing you from engaging with certain people…

Homosexuality. But, really, you did say it’s a myth that trans people try to coerce people into sex. And here you are trying to guilt and coerce people into wanting sex with trans people.

Don’t ask me what I look like…Ask me what my ideal first date is…Ask what turns me on…Ask me if we should turn off the light…Tell me you want to kiss me.

The point of asking what’s in your pants is to determine if a sexual relationship is even possible before wasting time finding out your ideal first date, etc. The rest literally doesn’t matter if you don’t have the equipment he or she desires.

I’m a sexual participant with needs, wants, and agency.

A bit like everyone you’ve steamrolled over in your quest to ensure people can’t say no to sex they don’t want, no?

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Laws that legitimise violent reactions to that disclosure still exist. In the U.S., 46 states still allow the ‘trans panic defense’ — when someone (usually a cisgender man) is charged with murder of a trans person (usually transfeminine), they can claim the violence was prompted by being told that 'that woman has a penis' or 'used to be a man.'

This claim pisses me off so bad. They phrase it as if those states proactively allow this as an excuse for murder which is completely false. All those laws do is prevent a person from literally saying it in court. Otherwise the person is free to say it which is effectively admitting to murder. It doesn't change the outcome, it just acts as a form of thought police. they think that passing a law like this literally edits people's brains to believe they are real women.

[–]HereStill 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Think about what’s really preventing you from engaging with certain people: is it a lack of experience? Not knowing how something works? Internalised transphobia? Trauma?

It's the dick and the not very subtle behavior of someone who views me as a goal and not an actual date.