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[–]Datachost 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I can maybe understand how there may have been a time where it was a rebellious statement for a [gay] man to reject vaginas

To paraphrase Noel Fielding "Not trying to be cool, he just genuinely doesn't like vagina"

[–]Virginia_Plain 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Well it's apparently still a rebellious statement because God damn it is pissing people off!

The gaslighting is insane, it needs to end. Good for the BBC for publishing what it did.

Every time someone makes a statement about not being open to sex with trans people, this shit goes down. There is no sufficiently "respectful" method of saying no, save for if you flagellate yourself for being an unevolved bigot. And the response is invariably "no one is pressuring you to do anything!"

I went on the top4chubs guy's Twitter (VERY NSFW!!!) and couldn't help but notice how many of the dudes he was with has penises. There were a few posts lusting after chubby FTMs, but the sex videos were noticeably devoid of vagina.

I watched it so you don't have to.

[–]julesburm1891 17 insightful - 9 fun17 insightful - 8 fun18 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

As the old saying goes, “TRA in the streets, terf in the sheets.”

[–]Virginia_Plain 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, there's a virtue signal element to it. The other guys I've met who are genuinely into FTM people (which is fine in itself) have had an "evangelical" approach (not cool). Have had conversations about sex steered towards the subject, and it's usually done pretty awkwardly and patronizingly.

Not sure what the motivation is...are they trying to make themselves feel better about sleeping with trans men, and that "real gays" should be into anyone who "identifies" as male? I've noticed that a lot of them had been in relationships with women before, so that might explain some of it.