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[–]KingDickThe2nd 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If it's not a safe or appropriate place for a person to disclose that they are gay then they shouldn't feel pressured into doing so by hetrosexuals who have absolutely no understanding of being LGB.

And here's the very real danger of feelgood warm fuzzy hetrosexuals butting the heads in where they don't belong:

I refused to come out back when I was 14 (20 year ago now) because of safety concerns in my community and at school. This was why I was kind of ditching school so often at that age.

However a government psychologist I was forced to go to every week, the school counsellor and representatives of the Rainbow Youth (New Zealand) charity had a meeting about me without my parents or myself knowing. They decided that I needed to be my authentic myself and so decided to publicly out me to some students without asking me or my parents permission.

A month later I got drunk (drank a 1 litre bottle of Jack Daniels straight and then some) at an out door party with underage drinkers and adults in their twenties. I was held down by some of the adults and violently raped while they chanted homophobic slurs.

When I finally got up the strength to come forth about what happened just before my 16th birthday, none of people who breached my privacy rights were investigated by the police.

The police also happened to bungled the case against the rapists who were able to threaten the 30 odd witnesses to not give evidence in the court case after originally providing witness statements.

[–]reluctant_commenter 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I am so sorry that happened to you. That's horrific.

Hope you've been able to find some peace after that event. I appreciate you sharing your story. I think many straight people underestimate the real dangers of coming out around people who violently hate LGB people.

[–]KingDickThe2nd 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While I'm certainly more at peace than what I was in the past, it still haunts me quite a bit even to this day. Less so the event and more the injustice of the whole thing.

At least I didn't receive the same fate as another 14 year old kid who died after being gay bashed a couple years previous in our capital city.

There's still a lot extremist homophobes out there: fanatical Christians, fanatical Muslims, Nazis or even gang members (as the people who raped me were influenced by US gang culture and rap music).

So it freaks me out when young people are encouraged to come out at a very young age; like the danger isn't there still. Particularly when kids think that they are invaluable at that age.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Damn, that's insane; Those fucking child rapists should've gotten the chair. I'm sorry to hear how they escaped justice after what they did.

And those dumbshit presumptuous outers should've never been allowed to work with youth again. What kid(or anyone) could've confided in them again after that betrayal of trust?

[–]KingDickThe2nd 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because they were not sexually attracted to me and thus not pedophiles, the police lacked any type of vigor in the case. They had overwhelming evidence and they couldn't put the case together.

The ringleader committed suicide a couple years after the court case, and I got blamed for it so the ringleaders older brother (who organised the intimidation of the witnesses) and 4 mates jumped me after work when I was 22. The police tried to blame me for it as I defended myself with a box cutter I had in my pocket (I worked at a supermarket).

I have no clue what happened to the school counsellor or the Rainbow Youth members, but I know the government psychologist has been promoted a number of times is now in a pretty cushy position.

While I dislike the litigious culture of the US over all, nonetheless what happened to me would never have happened if these people faced accountability for their actions.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique[S] 13 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 7 fun14 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Best comment:

I couldn’t tell if she was encouraging people or threatening them.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe she assumes everyone will be lovebombed and hugboxed the way gender specials are.

[–]Shales123 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Never heard of this lady

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Shrew from the view.

[–]SerpensInferna 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She's pretty vile.

[–]Midcentury 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Joy Behar was literally one of the first bricks thrown at Stonewall

I could NOT believe it!

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ooh excellent meme.