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[–]julesburm1891 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why are they so obsessed with being us when they clearly hate us?

[–]fuck_reddit 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because under queer theory, we’re supposed to be the vanguard of subversion and deconstruction, but when push came to shove, most homosexuals said “no, my attraction is objective and immutable.”

[–]hufflepuff-poet 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They don't get that what makes "gay culture" is the fact that we all experience same-sex attraction and how that reality shapes our lives. The "gay stereotypes" that they co-opt like drag and lesbian fashion' are things that we created to find each other in a heterosexist world NOT the things that define our group. Straight people larping as their drag version of the worst stereotypes straight people have of gay culture.

[–]reluctant_commenter 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The "gay stereotypes" that they co-opt like drag and lesbian fashion' are things that we created to find each other in a heterosexist world NOT the things that define our group.

I love how you put this. Succinct.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Does this "non-men" thing sound a lot like the "non-straight" thing, or "non-white" thing to anyone?

Like, there are certain classifications(usually the majority population or considered privileged ones) that have become undesirable to be labeled as in modern woke society, and people are doing whatever mental/linguistic gymnastics they can do to escape them. And if they can't manage(or don't want) to get labeled something generally accepted, they just identify with any one of those myriad neo-identities, and prefix whatever they actually are with "non"(because few recognize those new identities anyway).

"Cis" seems to be becoming another undesirable class, too. An example of the above being done with it would be:

I'm not trans, but I identify as Stargender. So I'm non-cis anyway.

This way they sometimes don't actually have to explain stargender or whatever obscure identity they decide on, yet still separate themselves from aforementioned undesirable classification and get a bit higher on the ladder of intersectionality. With this method, you can theoretically get to the top without revealing any of your identities at all other than stating that you are a bunch of non-somethings.

[–]Poppy29252Natal Cat Woman 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think the concept of identifying into a group to make yourself seem less mainstream/majority or to make others perceive you as "less boring" is definitely a thing.

I've watched this slowly over the years with one of friends who I've distanced myself from because of her bullshit antics. She's a straight, middle class, white girl. She's just average and that's ok. But years ago she started doing drag (performing as a drag king), goes to pride in rainbow outfits, has rainbow tattoos, talks about being "technically bi," and even came out as a lesbian for a month until conceding that she was just a confused demisexual bisexual. Used to call herself greysexual. She spends a lot of time online.

Never dated a woman. Never touched a woman. Never talks about women. Never shows desire for women. Talks about dick. Talks about men. Asked random men on Facebook to be her baby daddy. Only dates men. Mostly she just posts bisexual related memes on Facebook and collects LGBT friends to seemingly give her clout.

[–]reluctant_commenter 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"We're not even gonna get into how pronouns don't equate to gender"

Oh, really? So you don't need me to use your special pronouns, then? Good to know, thanks.