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[–][deleted] 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Stonewall needs to be investigated for a non-crime hate incident or whatever the police have been using to harass women over twitter posts. It should also have it's charity status revoked, it no longer serves the people it claims to serve and is an active hate group against those same people.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed.

[–]julesburm1891 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In her email, Kelley suggested that the BBC article would end up being ‘transphobic’ because it represented trans women as ‘sexual predators’ which was a ‘central anti-trans argument’.

If you’re a heterosexual male attempting to pressure lesbians into sex, you’re a sexual predator. If you wish to curtail women (or men) calling out predatory behavior from others, you are an enabler and rape apologist. The end.

[–]bolla_top 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Transgender women who still have male genitals..."

Just say it people. They are men. Refuse to play along.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

"Trans lobby group Stonewall brands lesbians 'sexual racists' for raising concerns about being pressured into having sex with transgender women who still have male genitals"

Fixed it for them. No qualifier needed, good lordy! No one is obliged to sleep with a trans person regardless of how many surgeries they've had.

And it's not at all surprising that Stonewall tried to interfere.

https://archive.ph/x6Ula

[–]pacmanla 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly. I get sick & tired of hearing the "what about post-op" argument/talking point/nonsense. They're still males & it's STILL not a vagina.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Someone used the term "knockoffs" on this sub in the last week. I cringed and laughed at the same time. It's true. If you have an inferior product that you made that way, that is your own damned fault. Especially when you previously had the standard product most people are looking for. (Physically only; it's never a seller's market for shitty personalities.)

[–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fixed it for them. No qualifier needed, good lordy!

Thank you. Many news articles poorly communicate this point.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, which is infuriating. Any verbiage whatsoever that implies an obligation on the part of members of one group to sleep with members of another group for ANY REASON, EVER is morally repugnant. I'm aghast that this obvious fact doesn't whack them between the eyes from their own awareness before they write such things.

[–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I saw this article earlier. Wow. Just wow. They just come right out and say it. The "cotton ceiling" concept is not sexual racism, whatever the fuck that means. It is a homophobic argument that an extremely vocal minority of straight men are using in an attempt to pressure lesbian women into having sex with them.

I am super glad this article came out. However, I do wish they had tried to make the title clearer. The comments section is filled with people who were confused by the title. It is rather long, and if you're not familiar with this topic at all, I could easily see why people would find it confusing. Because the whole thing's so ludicrous!

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s worth it just to see Stonewall correctly labeled a trans lobby group. They must be spitting.

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's true! I was just thinking, I don't think I've ever actually heard them described that way in a mainstream news article. Functionally speaking, it's accurate; I wouldn't be surprised if they'll try and go after Daily Mail and get it changed because on paper they claim to represent other groups.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This army of deranged individuals can only try to borrow the momentum from other (legitimate) causes, because its own foundation is so utterly flmsy and crumbles under even the slightest scrutiny.

More scrutiny please. Everywhere.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Since when does "racism" mean anything remotely like "declining to FUCK people"???