LifestyleHas anyone else tried to talk someone out of "transition"?

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[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

And the worst part is if I had stayed calmer and more neutral maybe I could have talked her out of it.

I wouldn't think like this or blame yourself. Maybe there's a slim chance you could have talked her out of it, but probably not. The truth is that most people don't change their minds about anything unless they come to a new conclusion on their own. And people have had their minds made up for them about this stuff by some pretty strong propaganda (and deliberate social engineering if you ask me). Sorry about your friend.

[–]7874[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

deliberate social engineering

How and why?

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

How? Social media influence, propaganda, censoring and no-platforming dissidents, selective media coverage that downplays or outright ignores anything that goes against the narrative... basically the stuff we talk about on here all the time.

As for WHY, I'm not really sure. There seems like there's a few possible reasons. It could simply be about profit. As some trans people themselves acknowledge, being trans can be pretty expensive between the hormones and cosmetic surgeries. Though I'm not sure if it's QUITE profitable enough to be worth all this effort. Or it could be as simple as TRAs trying to recruit and reel in as many people as possible simply to expand their numbers.

It could also be that trans activism is simply being used as a tool to hurt other human rights movements or left-wing parties in general. We've seen how divisive trans activism is. Feminism has been completely split between pro-trans libfems and gender-critical/radfems, LGB spaces are divided or completely shut down, even a lot of normie liberals are getting fed up. I believe TRAs also pretty much got some communist book fair shut down. Or it could just be the wealthy elite stirring up trouble in order to keep the working and middle class divided like they usually do. Your guess is as good as mine.

[–]7874[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I personally don't think it's a coordinated effort by some malicious force. "Transing" homosexuals has been going on since at least the beginning of written history. It occurs independently in cultures that have no contact with one another. The only thing that's different this time (other than more advanced technology and "medicine") is that now heterosexuals (mostly heteros who are gender non-conforming) are also being transed.

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm really gonna have to disagree with you there. Heterosexuals being transed isn't the only thing that's new. You're right that transing homosexuals isn't new, but one big difference is that in the past it was mostly targeted at gay men. Many people on here have pointed out that most cultures with "third genders" are mostly/only for men, not women. But now there's been a massive spike in females id'ing as trans- they account for most ROGD cases. So the large scale transing of females is pretty new. The ever growing list of "non-binary" genders is new. The biological sex denialism is new. The insistence that trans people be seen and treated as though they're exactly the same as a member of the opposite sex is new. The whole cult-like atmosphere surrounding this modern trans movement and the witch-hunting of so-called "TERFs" is all pretty different to stuff seen in the past.

It's too hard for me to look at formerly reasonable or otherwise reasonable people frothing at the mouth and swearing up and down that biological sex is a social construct and TWAW/TMAM!!, and think that this all happened organically.

[–]7874[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All of those things are easily explained by culture, cultural changes, psychology, and the creation of trans "medicine". Not everything is a conspiracy.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

However, they generally tend to keep their genitals intact (since they can go back to being straight when this is no longer popular), as opposed to homosexuals who tend to be more likely to remove their genitals as they genuinely believe they'll be happier as "straight" people.

[–]holy_goat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the why is simple, its not intentional. it's because they become jannies (the incels who become "lesbians" also happen to be the people who love becoming admins and moderators for online communities)

[–]7874[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you meant to respond to u/TransspeciesUnicorn

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