ColonizationWoman on r/gaytransguys hates hearing about gay guys who accept themselves and are happy, ponders whether her local gay bar would allow her to attempt conversion therapy.

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[–]7874[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

"Transbians" on this sub never get such sympathy.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You called her a "woman" so I pointed out that she's not really there yet. She's still being an idiot, but also her brain is still developing at that age. The two go hand in hand for some people. Let's cross our fingers that she turns out to be one of them. (Her and the rest of the online world that is still being young and dumb--they're managing to do a lot of damage regardless, but we can at least hope it will come to a natural end sooner rather than later for at least some of them.)

As for transbians:

This is actually not true. There's a video discussed in a thread here about Lisa Shupe, who was interviewed this year about her (his) struggles with AGP and attempts to get help. Worth watching.

What is also true is that AGP is generally a condition that inspires men to harass women. Those are the ones that typically get discussed here, and women are under no obligation to feel sympathetic toward men who prey on them.

[–]7874[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

She's a young woman, definitely, but 19 is far from a child.

As far as Lisa Shupe, he's a little different because he's self-aware and trying to deal with his condition. I'd feel some sympathy for an AAP woman who is doing the same, but none for one who thinks it's acceptable to harass gays. So I see why some people here would afford him some pity, but this situation is totally different, and my point that "transbians" who harass lesbians are rightfully given no sympathy still stands.

What is also true is that AGP is generally a condition that inspires men to harass women.

This AAP woman has already harassed gays online and wants to do it in person. AGPs are not unique in that respect. Are the men here obligated to feel sympathetic towards this predatory woman?

[–]jiljol 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sadly, that's just the way things are. Spaces like these tend to have people who tilt ever-so-slightly towards a radical feminist POV, where women (including transgender-identified ones) are at the very least given the benefit of the doubt, or just outright treated like misguided victims despite their behavior. The fact that the people they are defending (white, liberal, middle/upper-middle class, female) are the driving force behind the entire transgender movement is irrelevant: "what a poor (virulently homophobic) girl child... but that dude who jerks off to futa hentai and hates women? that's a monster".

[–]7874[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm tired of radical feminists colonizing a movement against something that is primarily based in homophobia for their own ridiculous purposes. Their ideology is so cheap and they have no analysis other than "women victims :("