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[–][deleted] 28 insightful - 4 fun28 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Owen Jones has been championing side of it's not ok to talk about a minority doing bad things: https://i.imgur.com/ND5M8uY.jpg

But guess who wrote an article about straight men who were raped by other men? That's right, Owen Jones: https://archive.md/WkGLf

Owen, just admit you hate lesbians already, you hypocritical sack of shit.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 10 insightful - 9 fun10 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 9 fun -  (2 children)

Oh he loves lesbians, both the ones with dicks and the ones willing to incubate his devil spawn

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 9 fun15 insightful - 8 fun16 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe he should ask Riley Dennis to carry his demon child. He should agree that Riley is a 100% valid lesbian.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 12 insightful - 8 fun12 insightful - 7 fun13 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

True. And Riley himself insists he is a biological woman.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure he is a pedo gay, like the NAMBLA type. He looks like a massive Britbong nonce

[–]jim_steak 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The real question I have is why is the media no longer willing to lie to make trans people look good? All of the mainstream media coverage up to now has either been trans positive - frequently to the point of blatantly lying - or has omitted important info. It seems to me that the level of narrative control it takes to convince people that a mentally ill man is just a type of woman would be very difficult and expensive to maintain in the long term, especially when integrating these men into women's spaces causes so many problems. Between the bathroom rape in Virginia and this article in the UK we're seeing a huge shift in the way the media is willing to cover trans people, and I wonder if the pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, etc that have been profiting off the trans movement have decided that the risk of continuing this narrative now outweighs the benefit.

If that did happen, and the narrative shifted back to transsexualism being considered a mental illness that needs therapy and pharmaceuticals instead of transition, I'm not sure what the effect would be on the LGBT community. On the one hand, it would be a victory for us, but a large part of the community has totally invested themselves into gender ideology, and I can't imagine transsexuals who have spent tens of thousands of dollars and had their bodies surgically altered are just going to pack up and go home peacefully. What is going to happen when tens of thousands of extremely unstable people realize their friends and therapists have been lying to them and because of that they're now stuck in strange, surgically altered bodies many of them went into debt for?

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably because most people never believed the gender ideology to begin with but everyone is busy being performatively woke because they didn't think doing so had consequences. Now the consequences are becoming unavoidably clear.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What is going to happen when tens of thousands of extremely unstable people realize their friends and therapists have been lying to them and because of that they're now stuck in strange, surgically altered bodies many of them went into debt for?

I can imagine a new political/activist group forming from this crowd; And I get a feeling it's not gonna be a very placid one.

Also, while it's nice having the media on the same side for once, I just can't trust them anymore after what they did. Their gaslighting has been largely responsible for what happened with trans.

[–]onenaivecanary 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think the trans rights stuff is a major issue for reporters of the social justice bent, and has been for some time. More recently, other people have started paying a little more attention because this used to affect a very tiny subset of people and now it looks like our version of the thalidomide disaster or the recovered memory craze/satanic panic. The facts weren't really ever in favor of the current state of things, but people believed the lies because they didn't take the time to look past the initial propaganda of the early 2010s.

[–]onenaivecanary 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, if the story was about biological lesbians doing the same things, no one would be objecting in this way. I agree that the worrying thing here seems to be that lesbians (and bi women - they have some similar experiences) need to keep their mouths shut and endure this for the validation and cultural acceptance of trans women. It's disturbing.

[–]FlanJam 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've noticed a lot of the backlash is aimed at criticizing Lily Cade, which is pointless because her interview was only a small part of the article. Its probably because there isn't anything else in the article they can criticize, its mainly just interviews and reporting on facts. Its funny because they claim the article is so terrible yet they can't even criticize it properly lol