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[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I needed two letters to get on hormones. One was a referral from a therapist who had about an hour alone with me. The other was from my regular therapist saying I was of sound mind. I got a whole bunch of mental health and neurodevelopmental diagnoses seven years after I was first given testosterone. I feel like I lost years of my life focusing on changing my aesthetic and reinventing my life when it did absolutely nothing for my mental health. It took me ten years to detransition. It's criminal that this is considered health care.

Stuff like this bothers me, because I've seen other detransitioners echoing this, that they were able to get access to hormones or whatever pretty easily. I think I remember another story about an ex-transman who was able to get access to T after only a single consultation with a therapist over the phone, with no in-person meeting, for example. But then on the flipside you've got TRAs and other trans people claiming that the process of accessing trans healthcare is very difficult. That you have to undergo all sorts of psychological examinations and be put on long waiting lists and such.

These claims are pretty contradictory, so what's up with that? Two possible conclusions are that A) Either detransitioners or TRAs are lying or B) Standards and protocols for trans healthcare vary wildly from country to country, region to region, or even clinic to clinic. Which makes "gender doctors" look even more shady.

But what's the truth? How difficult or easy is it to get access to hormones/surgery legally in western countries, really?

[–][deleted] 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's both TRAs are lying and trans healthcare varying wildly.

You can even see them on Reddit advising new converts on how best to go about getting hormones quickly and easily. They'll advise which therapists are quicker to hand them out, how to answer questions in a particular way, how to find a different therapist if their current one isn't throwing out hormones like candy on Halloween, etc.

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've heard claims to that effect before too... man, don't TRAs realize what a terrible idea that is? The easier they make it for just any old person to transition, the more they increase the likelihood that people will regret and detransition. And the more the number of detransitioners goes up, the more people might start to step back and question the trans movement. It just shows how stupid a lot of TRAs are, they're hurting their own movement when they do shit like this, and hurt a bunch of confused/mentally ill people in the process.

[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They don't seem to have good long term plans. They have things they want immediately and don't seem to care that those things will completely backfire on their movement in the future.

The rampant homophobia and sexism is starting to come back to bite them in the ass already with media like the BBC finally reporting on it. It's only a matter of time before detransitioners become a serious problem for the trans movement as more people detransition because they were rushed into it at a young age before they could even legally consent to it.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

don't TRAs realize what a terrible idea that is

Yes to what sneeuweekhoorn said. They are not thinking of anything but themselves. "What can I get for me right now" is standard operating procedure for narcissists. And yes, they are exactly this stupid. They do not think ahead, about others, about the future, about consequences. They are not that emotionally mature.

Repeating a URL I shared below: https://shrink4men.com/2019/08/18/adult-toddlers-part-1-traits-of-emotionally-immature-narcissists-and-borderlines/

[–]JulienMayfair 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

don't TRAs realize what a terrible idea that is?

No, they just want more numbers, partly for political influence and partly for validation by proxy.