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[–]julesburm1891 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Every constituent element of our entire society is locked and loaded to affirm a cis person in their gender

There is really no polite way to say this. Everyone sees people for what sex they are, regardless of how they dress or feel. It doesn’t matter if I put on a dress and heels or a button-down and oxfords. When I go out in the world, everyone recognizes me as a woman and calls me as such. There’s no “affirmation” happening. People are just calling it as they see it.

What trans people don’t get is that no one looks at a transwoman and thinks, “that’s a woman.” Everyone knows he’s a man and is just politely tiptoeing around the issue because they know he’s a head case and don’t want to be accused of “bigotry.” The same goes for transmen and non-binary people. No one is “affirming” gender. They’re merely accommodating mental illness out a sense of social niceness.

[–]bopomofodojo 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. And this is also why "just be nice" is such a motte-and-baily for them.

"Some Liberal: Just be nice"... OK, fine, I'll be nice, I like being nice. "Obvious Man in a dress: I'm a woman"... OK, well, I guess saying "sure hun" is "nice", and people want be to be nice, so. "Person with serious delusions: I am not a man, I'm a WOMAN"... OK, well, you're actually not literally a woman... "BIGOT!"... Uh, what about being nice? "Fuck you fascist".

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Even the people who most fervently believe the TWAW and TMAM things don't actually view them as women or men. Especially for trans women who are never, ever held to the same standards that women are held.

[–]julesburm1891 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. There’s a transbian in my friends circle. A few of my friends are super woke and will scream TWAW all day. In private they say stuff like, “it just seems like maybe she absorbed a lot of toxic masculinity.”

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hear hear!