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[–]CaptainMooseEx-Bathhouse Employee 37 insightful - 2 fun37 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

On one hand, I’m glad they’re with each other and leaving gays and lesbians alone. Today, she posted about how her fiancé was so kind and helped her with her makeup and wardrobe for her first ever drag show.

Yeah, they're still not leaving gays and lesbians alone. She (at least) is still making money in a position an actual LGB person could be working to support themselves and now will be occupying the spot of a gay (or bisexual) male drag performer and thus siphoning money that way.

It also doesn't stop them from using her positions within our spaces to continue to harass gay men and lesbian women on behalf of any other "gay transman" or "lesbian transwoman" who saunter in.

[–]reluctant_commenter 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those are very good, and underappreciated, points.

I feel like it's easy to downplay the harms caused by the actions of people like those described in the post, since we so frequently see much more egregious harms done-- such as the encouragement of rape-by-deception among a vocal subset of trans-identified women and men.

[–]julesburm1891[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These are both excellent points I hadn’t considered. Thank you for bringing them to the table!

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You brought up a good point. The transman might be in a relationship with a heterosexual male who thinks he’s a woman, but she is still going to shame gay and bisexual men who refuse to date other transmem. And you still have to pretend that she’s a man if you don’t want to get banned from the gay bar she’s working at.