all 26 comments

[–]7874 22 insightful - 5 fun22 insightful - 4 fun23 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

Everyone is confused and I see why. This isn't TRA or Christianity. It's something that people here must be fortunate enough not to have been exposed to: New Age Religion.

Practicioners tend to hold conservative beliefs, like any other religious people. They're generally anti-abortion, anti-homosexuality, and pro-gender roles. Instead of "God wants you to do things this way," their justification is "the energies will align if you do things this way."

They genuinely believe that homosexuals are "male souls in female bodies" and vice versa, but also often doubt that such a thing is possible, not because the souls thing is ridiculous, but because they are homophobic and believe that homosexuals need to embrace their "repressed masculine/feminine energy" (for males/females, respectively) and have a divine relationship with a member of the opposite sex and have "tantric sex" and breed with them. In order to align the "energies" with the "divine vibrations of the universe."

I have a family member like this.

[–]IGiveAFuck2 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

thanks for the context - while still absolute BS, it sort of makes sense if it comes from the viewpoint you mention... It was very early morning in Australia when I first read it and it really fucked my mind!

[–]7874 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No problem. The argument is essentially: "if gays are women's souls in men's bodies and only like men, why won't they fuck lesbians (men's souls in women's bodies)? the truth is that homosexuals are just fucked up and repressed and need to become heterosexual and be cured." Kind of a mindfuck, but similar to most religions.

Have a good rest of your day.

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol what is it with all these lunatics who think people can be attracted to souls/identities. I can see if a human has breasts and a pussy or not, I sure as fuck can't see what "energy" their soul has or how they identify themselves in their head.

[–]KimiORabu[S] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's similar to "trans right activist" claims such as "a trans woman is a woman inside a man's body" and "a trans man is a man inside a woman's body". And gay people are the ones that are targeted, as if "trans right activists" stole conservative, religious, homophobic claims to push their agenda (and they did).

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wtf even is this?

None of it makes any sense even in the context of TRA or religious right arguments.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 12 insightful - 8 fun12 insightful - 7 fun13 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

That looks like it was written by an AI that read too many TRA tweets.

[–]DrMantisToboggan 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think the author of this could pass a Turing test.

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

I had a stroke trying to read this, can someone explain what the fuck this person is trying to say??

[–]kwallio 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I had basically the same reaction. Like, words mean things?

[–]7874 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same here lol. Can't tell if this is parody or what.

[–]julesburm1891 11 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Male homosexuals who consider themselves to be female

Female homosexuals who consider themselves to be male

“Well, these peoples’ delusions aren’t checked into reality and it’s clear proof you’re a homophobe.”

Uh, okay.

[–]IGiveAFuck2 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

WTF? This has to be the most non-sensical piece of crap I've ever seen - words fail me....

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This is from a counseling website? A study help website? Who published this?

[–]KimiORabu[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

[–]our_team_is_winning 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What the shit. This guy is apparently a long-time associate of Albert Ellis, the founder of REBT?

This is blowing my mind right now. This is so fucked up. This guy is apparently some sort of new-age conversion therapy practitioner???

This isn't just some random idiot's website, this guy actually has influence in the therapy world. WTF.

I actually don't know what to say. This is crazy. Thank you for sharing, how/where did you stumble upon this guy's website...?

[–]KimiORabu[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This man shouldn't be anywhere near gay people. He should be in jail.

Do you think there's a way for his career to be taken away?

how/where did you stumble upon this guy's website...?

It was purely a coincidence. I was searching for pro-gay articles, and instead got anti-gay articles (my middle finger to google).

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry I'm so late in responding to this--

This man shouldn't be anywhere near gay people. He should be in jail.

Do you think there's a way for his career to be taken away?

I completely agree. I'm still kind of in shock about how egregious this is, I might do some more reading on it tonight. I think there might be a way if he gets "cancelled" or if a big deal about it were made on social media... but honestly, I'm not sure if the general population cares enough about LGB people :/ it is no longer trendy to make a big deal about anti-gay discrimination... That's just my guess, though. I do think this would surprise a lot of people, though.

I was searching for pro-gay articles, and instead got anti-gay articles (my middle finger to google).

Oh god lol, I absolutely hate when that happens to me. Yeah thanks Google. So frustrating.

[–]KimiORabu[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Original link: https://kevinfitzmaurice.com/free-stuff/free-stuff-miscellaneous/homosexuals/

To read further, click on "3 points"

Homosexuals Are Homophobic

There is no one more homophobic than homosexuals.

This is proven by their actions, not their words.

There is no one more rejecting of homosexuals’ claims to be a different sex than homosexuals.

This is proven by their actions, not their words.

Neither male nor female homosexuals are willing to recognize that the other is the sex that they believe that they are.

Examples

For instance, a female homosexual who believes that she is really a man is not interested in a male homosexual who believes that he is really a woman. No, she only wants the real thing.

For instance, a male homosexual who believes that he is really a woman is not interested in a female homosexual who believes that she is really a man. No, he only wants the real thing.

Since homosexuals clearly demonstrate by their behavior that they do not believe the claims of other homosexuals–then why should anyone else believe their hypocritical claims.

You simply do not see male homosexuals pursuing female homosexuals or female homosexuals pursuing male homosexuals.

Contradictions

However, female homosexuals who consider themselves male never consider themselves male homosexuals. That is, women who claim to be men never claim to be gay men defying their belief that some men will always be gay.

However, male homosexuals who consider themselves female never consider themselves female homosexuals. That is, men who claim to be women never claim to be gay women defying their belief that some women will always be gay.

You simply do not see female homosexuals pursuing men or male homosexuals pursuing women.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Man, is this some epic stupidity, or what? Notice how the entire thing hinges on THIS assertion:

There is no one more rejecting of homosexuals’ claims to be a different sex than homosexuals.

Wait, WHAT? Homosexuals claim to be a different SEX??? Meaning that lesbians normally view themselves as men, and gay men normally view themselves as women? NO THEY FUCKING DON'T!!! Hell, the modern gay rights movement did away with all that kind of "homosexuality = heterosexuals in the wrong body" bullshit! The only people who believe THAT anymore are the gender-cultists!

So much for everything that follows from that premise, then!

[–]fuck_reddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am baffled by the sheer stupidity of whoever wrote this.

[–]blargus 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Ah, I got it! Trans-women are women as much as homosexuals are homophobic! Makes perfect sense!

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you nailed it

[–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

I thought CBT was something else 😏