RantTired of bisexuals being expected to be open to dating trans people by default because we like both biological males and females

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[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Which harmful/homophobic stereotypes that exist about lesbian?

Well, I wouldn't say that the ones you cite (and dismiss as being applicable only to bi women) are the fundamental ones. THOSE would be the following (disclaimer: I've never actually believed any of this-- just playing reporter here):

  • Being exclusively same-sex attracted means that you can't reproduce, therefore lesbians are unnatural and unhealthy: pointless at best, harmful to society at worst.
  • Being attracted to men is fundamental to being a woman; therefore, lesbians are not really women. This means that they are either neuter (essentially sexless creatures) or pseudo-men. Either way, they are ugly failures.
  • Due to both of the above, lesbians are psychologically "sick"-- neurotic/immature/mentally-unbalanced-- and often predatory towards straight women. (Well, they CAN'T be attracted to each other-- they're all ugly, duh!)
  • Since sexual activity isn't "real" without the presence of a penis, lesbian sex doesn't count as sex. Therefore, lesbians are delusional and pathetic for thinking that it does. Theirs is less a sexual orientation than a failure to develop any kind of sexuality. They're backward and childish and generally incapable of dealing with adult life.

Now, how does any of THAT apply to bisexual women? But you can see lesbians being viewed through this lens, all right-- especially given the current lesbian-to-transman pipeline.

So: do you agree that these stereotypes exist because they are "real"? And if they AREN'T "real", then how, according to your own argument, did they ever get to be stereotypes in the first place?

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being exclusively same-sex attracted means that you can't reproduce, therefore lesbians are unnatural and unhealthy: pointless at best, harmful to society at worst. Being attracted to men is fundamental to being a woman; therefore, lesbians are not really women. This means that they are either neuter (essentially sexless creatures) or pseudo-men. Either way, they are ugly failures.

A) None of these are stereotypes, they are beliefs.

B) Neither of these beliefs are specifically about lesbians, they are beliefs about women. They naturally extend itself to lesbians because lesbians are women, not the other way around. There are bihet women that don’t get married and don’t have children and they are shamed and bullied for not marrying or having children.

The ‘lesbians sex is not real sex’ is also not stereotype, it’s a belief. One may think is dumb, fucked up, or homophobic but I don’t see how it’s harmful. It has no actual negative impact on lesbians lives if bihets think lesbian sex isn’t real sex besides may be insulting. And it doesn’t reflect reality it reflects an opinion.

Your whole ‘argument’ is like saying going to hell is a homosexual stereotype. It’s not. Homosexuals aren’t known for going to hell, this isn’t something that was done over and over again by homosexuals. It’s not a homosexual trait to go to hell. No one can prove homosexuals go to hell or that hell exist. ‘Homosexuals go to hell’ is a belief.