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[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I thought the idea of pan was for bisexuals who include trans people in their dating pool?

[–]DiveBarDiva 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think that was the original intent of them creating “pan” but then that would mean “bisexual” was transphobic and you aren’t allowed to be transphobic so they changed the definition of bisexual somewhere along the way.

[–]Ladis_Wascheharuum 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That is exactly what happened, I remember those years. "Bi" still meant "two" and "pan" was created for people who were also attracted to trans or intersex (those shouldn't be conflated either, but that's what it was then). It was still acknowledged that attraction to trans people wasn't universal, or even a majority. There was even a specific label (skoliosexual) for attraction to trans people.

Pansexual was meant for people who had homo, hetero, and skoliosexual attraction.

But then in the 2010s not dating trans people became transphobic, so any sexuality that excluded them was no longer "valid", but being bisexual still had some cool cred. To resolve this contradiction, they redefined bisexuality to include trans people. Skoliosexuality as a label got swept under the rug, as far as I can tell.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

this seems accurate. Bi refers to a binary and we can't have that.

[–]our_team_is_winning 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Skoliosexuality as a label got swept under the rug, as far as I can tell.

That's the Greek root for abnormal curvature of the spine, right? People who suffer from scoliosis (I remember the mass screening they did of us in 6th grade!) should NOT be stigmatized with some fetish label.

Why not call it "trans-sexuality"? And I'm being kind there. "Cross-sex fetishism" seems more appropriate.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You know transgenders can't make up anything for themselves, they thrive off stealing, appropriating, forced redefining, invading, and violent intimidation to get what they want. Making up a new label is too hard and doesn't get them off.

They already stolen the language for women(adult human females), stealing from people suffering from scoliosis is like cake.