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[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care[S] 34 insightful - 2 fun34 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Interestingly enough, the ones who kill MtFs the most in such cases are 'proto-chasers', not average straight men who have been duped.

What most straight men do when faced with a MtF is very similar to what most of us would do: turn tail and bolt. On the other hand, these proto-chasers will not only stay, but have multiple intimate enconters with them, gaslighting themselves that they're having straight sex until they go nuts and kill the MtF.

[–]Virginia_Plain 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'd say the shame of discovery by others drives a significant portion of these killings. The murder, and the subsequent "I was tricked!" explanation are both methods of saving face. Not saying that there aren't people who do this stuff, it's pretty fucked up too.

This recent incident in Blacksburg, Virginia appears to involve deception elements, though in this case it was a gay (non-MTF transitioning) man posing as a woman and inviting guys over for oral sex in a dark room. as this case is underway, however, there may be more to the story.

https://brobible.com/sports/article/motives-virginia-tech-football-player-murder/

https://nypost.com/2021/06/10/virginia-tech-linebacker-isimemen-etute-accused-of-fatally-beating-man/

[–]pacmanla 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say the shame of discovery by others drives a significant portion of these killings. The murder, and the subsequent "I was tricked!" explanation are both methods of saving face.

I agree with the poster above, tbh. As a heterosexual male, a lot of men who physically harm transwomen (males) are not "straight" men. These are sexually confused, in denial/closet, or "chasers" who are during a very high numbers of these assaults or killings if/when they do happen at all. Majority of heterosexual men know a neovagnia from a real one & other idiosyncrasies that distinguish biological females from a cosmetically enhanced male. It's hard to explain, but those inate things are there. Unfortunately a lot of these individuals work in the sex trade & these sexually confused men, or "chasers" have an internalized self hatred for their attraction to transwomen (males), so they take out their anger/frustration out on these individuals unfortunately.

These men know that these are trans individuals, & that deep down they're not heterosexual. Once the reality sets in on them sleeping with other males, they "snap". This is very unfortunate, because No one should die, because you can't be honest with yourself & just be your sexuality. This is hard for these men to do which is why you have HSTS saying "I'm not a guy man, but a straight woman". Or the men sleeping with them saying "They're women too & I'm not attracted to the male aesthetic". You have a breakdown from both sides, once reality sets in. Sorry for long post.