Gay MenPIV sex with cis gay guys? They Love it!

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[–]ThrowMeAway2879 29 insightful - 5 fun29 insightful - 4 fun30 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

Oh yes, all those gay guys (totally gay, hon... dude, I swear) falling all over themselves to smash pussy. As long as there's a scraggly beard and butch mastectomy scars on the chest, it's completely gay to stick a dick into vagina and these men are absolutely not just telling you what you want to hear. 🙄

Also: Any bets on what percentage of sexual encounters claimed in those answers is fictional? 70%?

[–]Virginia_Plain 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The guys into FTMs are pretty dedicated about it. I have met them, but they are a pretty small subset of people, kind of like the guys who are into trans women. It's one of those sexual tastes that definitely exists, but can't really be extended to the general population.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The guys into FTMs are pretty dedicated about it.

Fetishists in general are pretty obsessed about the thing they fetishise, it's quite bizarre to witness.

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you have any examples of this? Just curious, since there seems to be little enough material describing women's analogous experiences to AGP (i.e. AAP).

[–]turtleduck23 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's amazing to see how the "queer" community is doing what the religious right has been trying to do for decades and they are getting support for it. I remember watching an old video of a female preacher telling her church that gay men and butch lesbians should get together since butch lesbians "look like men" and they could "learn" to overcome their sinful ways and lead a straight christian life. the comments of course were against this women, yet when the "queer" community tries the same thing it's seen as "progressive".

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Not the first time I read from a transman who believed to be a lesbian and then started to be into dudes after transitioning. Might be they didn't want to be with dudes as females as they didn't like the hetero dynamic?

[–]MyLongestJourney 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

There are some anecdotal cases online,where women who took testosterone in order to transition,claim that it changed their sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual.That is before they took T,they were attracted to other women and after T,they started getting attracted to men. I have no idea if those women where really homosexual or bisexual.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It might be related to AAP, as AGP men love to pull this shit too.

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I do not believe they were homosexual. These women are that most infamous type of bisexual: political ‘lesbians’. If there’s something that I have realized is that almost every transman have sexual abuse trauma. That’s why they don’t wanna be women. They think being abused is a woman’s place so they want to get out of it. This type of women larp as lesbian to cope because they have issues with men but then once they are “no longer a woman” they don’t need to repress their attraction to males anymore as they think the dynamic between two men is more equal and respectful. I have seen transmen saying they want gay guys and only like males as a man because they hate the idea of being in a heterosexual relationship too many times.

I also have seen, at least online, transwomen saying they only liked guys before transition and then started to like women but in this case I don’t have a theory or explanation to why their bisexuality was tucked in. I don’t even know if that is true or not but I have seen it online.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I also have seen, at least online, transwomen saying they only liked guys before transition and then started to like women

Actual women or fellow MtFs? There's a huge difference there.

The ones who pull this shit are usually t4t who upon transitioning lost all of their dating prospects. This "I'm a lesbian now" is just cope for the fact no men wants them.

[–]fuck_reddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Happened to one of my former HS friends. She was a lesbian, then bi, then transitioned (FtM) and is now “trolling grindr” for “gay boys” to have “gay sex” with…

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This is very common trend that I have talked about before here, basically "ex-lesbians" dont have any dating pool since normal women won't date them then they turn to men.. also many of them say hrt made them attracted to males, not sure how sexual orientation just changes but oh well.. the reverse isnt true tho, gays who transition still remain gays in permadrag, maybe its a side-effect of testosterone

[–]shveya 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The whole “testosterone made me want dick” phenomenon is so weird.

[–]reluctant_commenter 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah that really makes no sense to me. The only mechanism I could see that happening through, logically, is:

  1. woman is unaware of, denies, or downplays her interest in men/dick

  2. woman starts on testosterone

  3. testosterone heightens sexual arousal

  4. woman is suddenly more aware of her sexual arousal and what she actually wants-- which is dick

  5. "testosterone made me want dick!" when the picture is more complicated than that.

I kind of wonder, if just dosing testosterone changed sexual orientation, then homophobes probably would've been doing that to gay/bisexual women for ages already...

[–]Dromedary 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's really bizarre. But ALL THIS reminds me that .. heterosexuality is just a law of the universe and Nature, for understandable reasons. The continuation of the species. And for we gay/lesbian people, that can be OPPRESSIVE.

What is honestly true and fucking HEROIC about gay and lesbian people is that we FIGHT immense societal pressure our whole lives, we face real discrimination historically and still today, , we DEFY Nature, we are HUMANS who have MASTERY over Nature. We aren't animals beholden to basic Nature, we transcend that and because it's hard we have to fight and ASSERT that. Constantly.

So when the FTMs and the MTFs all obey the basic heterosexual rules of Nature and the universe, being really BASIC and LAZY, they're stealing the valor of every gay and lesbian person who has to struggle and FIGHT to be themselves, to be above nature as much as they can, to DEFY social norms and reproductive urges. These people are HETEROSEXUALS with blue hair and a fear of being boring and that's not the same fucking thing at all. You're "queer"? No, you're a basic bitch who wants to be different, and that goes for the dudes too.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're lying lol

MtFs also pull this shit, be HSTS who lost all of their dating prospects after transitioning or AGPs who women don't want to even look at.

I don't doubt these FtMs are t4t/r4chaser and don't want to admit it.

[–]strictly 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

also many of them say hrt made them attracted to males

I've seen many of them saying they were attracted to men pre-hrt, while they identified as lesbians, but they didn't think that attraction counted as they were only attracted to being with these men as "men" which wasn't possible for them. I've also seen some say claim they are homosexual-attracted instead of female-attracted and that the sex they are into depend on which sex they perceive as their own.

[–]fuck_reddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hm… seems like a way of saying “I just want to always be the special kweer snowflake!”

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've also seen some say claim they are homosexual-attracted instead of female-attracted and that the sex they are into depend on which sex they perceive as their own.

Well that's a can of worms. I didn't think this could get any more convoluted.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What happens if they misgender someone they are attracted to, does their sexuality shift mid-conversation and the attraction is gone?!

How does anyone date like this, it sounds absolutely exhausting. I'm just tryna find an interesting woman who wants to mutually rub clits and makeout, not take a course in gender woo 😭

[–]totallyathrowaway87 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've heard that very thing often enough from both trans and de-trans I know.

[–]JulienMayfair 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Remember kids, only 12% of gay men polled would date a trans man. And gay men are what? 3% of the overall population? So that makes your dating pool 0.36% of the general population.

I guess they just reinforce each other's delusions until they have to go out into the real world as individuals and meet the cold reality of their choices.

[–]SolRosenberg 15 insightful - 9 fun15 insightful - 8 fun16 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

In the voice of Gob (Arrested Development): They're DELUSIONS, Michael!

[–]spanishprofanity 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Take notes, conversion therapists: this is how you cure the gay

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 9 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

“My favourite part of being a gay man…”

[–]hufflepuff-poet 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why does it have to be "cis gay men", gay men don't demand only other cis gays, they're attracted to MEN, not "gayness". Though I get some homosexuals do want to date only other homosexuals (of the same sex obviously), that's more of a cultural/preference thing than an innate part of our attraction.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Why does it have to be "cis gay men",

Muh validation!!!!!

There, that's why.

See also: fetish.

[–]shveya 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These women are forever going on about gay men wanting to be with them. They insist that it’s normal and expected for gay men to be into females.

[–]Rag3 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

She worries that she won’t be able to find men who want to fuck her vagina? 🤣 Stop chasing after gay men then you won’t have that problem.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

All of their problems are self-inflicted. 😭😂

[–]grixit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This must be some use of the term "gay guy" that i'm not familiar with.