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[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

While it would be unfair of me to launch into an ad hominem his voice is really irritating. I have heard several people with similarly irritating whiney American accents. Is it a regional thing? Where is this man from and remind me never to go there.

As to the content of his argument, however, much can be said.

This is very disconcerting and confusing to women when they find this out

Your misogyny is showing, sir. Women are icky TERFs aren't they, who just don't get things!? The notion that a 'straight' man who is attracted to a 'trans woman who hasn't had bottom surgery' but is not bi- or homosexual is confusing to me too, and I am a man.

Trans women are women. They are female.

No.

These men are attracted to her femininity and see her as the woman she is.

That's not how any of this works.

The attraction to her is from the waist up, but it can also be from the waist down.

Sure, I guess they're attracted to her broad, manly shoulders, big man hands, big man jaw and big ol' Adam's apple.

That act doesn't indicate a sexual orientation it indicates an attraction to the person.

I see, so now my sexuality depends on the other person. I didn't have sex with a child, my lady, because he identified as an adult. The act doesn't constitute a crime.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The notion that a 'straight' man who is attracted to a 'trans woman who hasn't had bottom surgery' but is not bi- or homosexual is confusing to me too, and I am a man.

Unpopular opinion: they're not bissexual, they're GAMPs.

What these chasers want are futas, but because futas don't exist they go for the closest thing to it: pre-op MtFs.

It's a fetish like inflation: a fixation on a thing that's not possible on real life.

[–]jim_steak 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I guess I don't really see how being GAMP is different from being bisexual. Bisexuals are attracted to both sexes, as are GAMPs - it just happens that GAMPs have a strong preference for women and only like a specific type of man. The fixation of the fetish seems to be the male body parts on a female body, but that's still an attraction to male body parts. I just don't think a straight man is attracted to men in any context.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Bisexuals are attracted to both sexes, as are GAMPs - it just happens that GAMPs have a strong preference for women and only like a specific type of man.

I doesn't sound strange to you to consider a male who is attracted only to males who have heavily modified their bodies in order to emulate female secondary characteristics bissexual? Because it is for me.

All studies done with chasers have shown they express no attraction to males without said body modifications, zero, nada. Also, their attraction to dicks in their original context is also null.

Have you ever seen a man who is only attracted to bears and shows no sexual response to any other type of men? As we all know, preferences do exist, but they're never this extreme.

So in a 'natural' context where said surgical modifications aren't considered, they'll show zero interest in males, unlike actual bissexual men.

That's why I'm against grouping GAMPs with bissexual men: they're different in almost every way.

I just don't think a straight man is attracted to men in any context.

It's because they aren't.

You're trying to interpret the mindset of a fetishist like they're a person without a fetish.

Disassociation is a key element in a number of fetishes, which in futa fetishists manifests as the separation between primary and secondary sex characteristics.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's why I'm against grouping GAMPs with bissexual men: they're different in almost every way.

Hey we agree on something.