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[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

While it would be unfair of me to launch into an ad hominem his voice is really irritating. I have heard several people with similarly irritating whiney American accents. Is it a regional thing? Where is this man from and remind me never to go there.

As to the content of his argument, however, much can be said.

This is very disconcerting and confusing to women when they find this out

Your misogyny is showing, sir. Women are icky TERFs aren't they, who just don't get things!? The notion that a 'straight' man who is attracted to a 'trans woman who hasn't had bottom surgery' but is not bi- or homosexual is confusing to me too, and I am a man.

Trans women are women. They are female.

No.

These men are attracted to her femininity and see her as the woman she is.

That's not how any of this works.

The attraction to her is from the waist up, but it can also be from the waist down.

Sure, I guess they're attracted to her broad, manly shoulders, big man hands, big man jaw and big ol' Adam's apple.

That act doesn't indicate a sexual orientation it indicates an attraction to the person.

I see, so now my sexuality depends on the other person. I didn't have sex with a child, my lady, because he identified as an adult. The act doesn't constitute a crime.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

they really went from gender and sex are separate to trans women are female real quick.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's what they always wanted, they just couldn't start at that position because of how ridiculous it is.

[–]julesburm1891 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

his voice is really infuriating

It’s mostly him being from the upper Midwest. (Minnesota, Wisconsin, or Michigan, probably. My money is on Minnesota.) The region was heavily settled by Swedes and Germans, which has created a very distinctive accent. To some extent, it’s also a class thing. If you talk to a working class guy from the region, he’ll still have a bit of nasal to his voice, but it won’t sound like this. Video guy’s voice is that of an liberal arts-educated city boy.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The notion that a 'straight' man who is attracted to a 'trans woman who hasn't had bottom surgery' but is not bi- or homosexual is confusing to me too, and I am a man.

Unpopular opinion: they're not bissexual, they're GAMPs.

What these chasers want are futas, but because futas don't exist they go for the closest thing to it: pre-op MtFs.

It's a fetish like inflation: a fixation on a thing that's not possible on real life.

[–]jim_steak 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I guess I don't really see how being GAMP is different from being bisexual. Bisexuals are attracted to both sexes, as are GAMPs - it just happens that GAMPs have a strong preference for women and only like a specific type of man. The fixation of the fetish seems to be the male body parts on a female body, but that's still an attraction to male body parts. I just don't think a straight man is attracted to men in any context.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here we go again...

When a GAMP guy says he's bisexual, what he means is that he likes both male and female, in the same person.

Just the debate about GAMP/Bisexual is somewhat peculiar, seeing how we've already got the precise words for each already.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Bisexuals are attracted to both sexes, as are GAMPs - it just happens that GAMPs have a strong preference for women and only like a specific type of man.

I doesn't sound strange to you to consider a male who is attracted only to males who have heavily modified their bodies in order to emulate female secondary characteristics bissexual? Because it is for me.

All studies done with chasers have shown they express no attraction to males without said body modifications, zero, nada. Also, their attraction to dicks in their original context is also null.

Have you ever seen a man who is only attracted to bears and shows no sexual response to any other type of men? As we all know, preferences do exist, but they're never this extreme.

So in a 'natural' context where said surgical modifications aren't considered, they'll show zero interest in males, unlike actual bissexual men.

That's why I'm against grouping GAMPs with bissexual men: they're different in almost every way.

I just don't think a straight man is attracted to men in any context.

It's because they aren't.

You're trying to interpret the mindset of a fetishist like they're a person without a fetish.

Disassociation is a key element in a number of fetishes, which in futa fetishists manifests as the separation between primary and secondary sex characteristics.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's why I'm against grouping GAMPs with bissexual men: they're different in almost every way.

Hey we agree on something.

[–]Hannibalboy93 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why are they so afraid to be called gay or Bi

[–]CaptainMooseEx-Bathhouse Employee 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"That doesn't make them bi..."

Sir, it makes them bi. Different bisexuals have different types for each sex, that doesn't negate the fact that they are bi.

Also, and I will say it again, many of these men who are fucking "transwomen" are also seeking out crossdressers, transvestites, drag queens, and twinks. You don't have to shave down your skull or shove bolt-ons under your skin for them to fuck you.

[–]pacmanla 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You have a lot of men in denial about their sexuality, so they want to "expand" the definition of heterosexual. It's the Malik Yoba syndrome (who BTW said this very same thing). The problem I have with these men is not their attraction to transwomen (males), but their need to bring other real heterosexual males into their mess & stand under the heterosexual "umbrella", when they're clearly anything but. This is why SuperStraight was started by a teen & other straight men of various ages rallied around it. If you want to expand the definition of heterosexual, gay, & lesbian; don't be surprised when those of us who understand how sex works in real life, come up with new definitions for our sexuality, that is based strictly on biological sex.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Attracted to femininity

Why wouldn't straight men be attracted to drag queens? They're very feminine, often more feminine than women. Hmm? Why aren't drag queens like the number 1 goal of straight men?

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

duh, drag queens are male in their heads, unlike trans women

[–]GayBoner 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“Attracted to femininity” … 😒

1000000x eye rolls

[–]censorshipment 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm so distracted by how tight his shirt is. He probably can't button it all the way up to the very little neck that he has.

Anyway, perhaps straight men have a trans paraphilia? Could be similar to straight white men who seek out "attractive" black men to fuck their subservient white wives? The big black cock paraphilia i.e. cuckoldry.

I can personally speak on cuckoldry since my dad stood by as my mom fucked other men because my dad wasn't good enough in bed for my mom. My younger sister is not his biological child (my mom got pregnant by a man she had an affair with) and he raised her anyway. People have always thought my dad was gay, but he's not... he's just a damn doormat.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's Dr. Joe Kort. I've read/listened to a bit of his work. He'll say anything to make his clients feel better, even if it's BS.

[–]dilsencySame-sex community 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lying for the sake of ✧validation✧. Why is it that genitals have 0 impact on a person's sexual orientation, and ✧feminine mystique✧ is the sole determining factor?

[–]Rag3 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bro. They’re still male. If you like that, you’re bi (GAMP.) This isn’t some esoteric issue that needed all of those words FFS. 😂

Edit: spelling