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[–]reluctant_commenter 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The New Gay Liberation Front is an organization that advocates for the rights of gay men and lesbians.

Not including bisexual people...? Not trying to rain on the parade here, but makes me wonder if this is a radfem front. They don't like bisexual women.

I hesitate to call this a victory until there is more information about this organization. I do recognize Belissa-- I believe she is/was a part of LGB Fight Back? But again, they are a relatively new organization as well.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Noticed that omission as well. Not feeling encouraged in that regard, and yeah, I would not call this an "LGB Victory" yet.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Based on everyone's conversations here, I'll update the flair to News instead of Victory.

I noticed Kurtis Tripp is on the board, looks like he's branching out!

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you!

[–]throwaway999 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

HOMOPHILE ORGANIZATION

???

[–]Virginia_Plain 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Lovin that retro styling. See you cats at the sock hop.

[–]SickOfThisShit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Where did it say that? Did they call themselves that?

[–]throwaway999 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

[–]hufflepuff-poet 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah I don't get that, why not just say homosexual organization?

Homophile sounds sus.

[–]fuck_reddit 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What I’ve heard is that “homofile” was a 50’s term meant to describe homosexuality without using the term “homosexual,” since “homosexual” was associated with anti-communist laws in the US.

[–]HelloMomo[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's a older term. Using it is the same kind of move as using as using the original 8-striped rainbow flag, rather than later 6-striped one. Both are meant to harken back to "old school gay rights", as contrasted with the modern queer shit.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I use the original 8-stripe flag now, I love that each color has a meaning!

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Agreed.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Homophile/homophilia is what the first gay rights org in America styled itself as (as an opposite to homophobia). “Phile” focused on love as opposed to “sex.” This was discussed in David Carter’s book Stonewall. It’s not immediately suspect to me, but I can see why people may be adverse to it. It makes it easy for detractors to try to smear it with presumed pedophilia connections. Sadly we LGB aren’t the keepers of /educators on our own history so this is easy for outsiders to do.

I will also keep my eye out for this org. I’ve liked what Kurtis and Belissa have to say (though from my recollection Belissa needs a bit more polish and can sound like she’s repeating talking points rather than explaining them to the uninitiated. I definitely want there to be more non-rad fem lesbian representation and some clear representation and support of bisexual people.

In any case the rise of new institutions is promising itself. I think this is the only way we get past this dark chapter in LGB history. But unfortunately each aspect of the messaging has to be very carefully vetted. They need both lawyers and people with PR/marketing vetting this.

FYI, for those unaware Donovan was interviewed by Benjamin Boyce a few months ago. I haven’t seen it yet but will watch. It would be beneficial to be able to aggregate the known resources we have on these individuals to assess their perspectives.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)