BisexualActing as if 'bisexual' is a forbidden word

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[–]censorshipment 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah but the most likely sexuality of a person fucking these freaks is bisexual. Do straight women and gay men fuck "trans women"? Sure. Do straight men and gay women fuck "trans men"? Sure. But who is fucking both? Bisexual men and women (who are likely the most vocal TRAs). 🤷

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Most of what you are saying above is conjecture that seems geared toward defending the incessant misuse of the term "bisexual," and doesn't respect what I am saying about misusing the term, either.

I don't misuse "lesbian" to include attraction to trans women. I merely expect the same respect in return.

And there seem to be plenty of ignorant, self-absorbed people mistakenly (or mendaciously) calling themselves bisexual who don't mean what the term means, either. They cannot be invoked here to make your point, as they are also misusing the term.

[–]throwaway999 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't misuse "lesbian" to include attraction to trans women. I merely expect the same respect in return.

You're being intellectually dishonest. The users here aren't calling people who are interested in women and "trans men" bisexual, it's people who are interested in both males and females. Trans status is not relevant to the definition of "bisexual". If a person is interested in both males and females, they are bisexual, regardless of the trans status of those people.

You are the one who is misusing the term. It means attraction to both males and females. I'll give you an example: if a guy likes women and "trans women" he is bisexual because he likes females (women) and males (trans women). I can go over the rest of the possible combinations, but I think you get what I'm saying. Attraction to both males and females is all that's relevant.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And you entirely miss that what you are doing is rewriting the definition of bisexual to include trans people. This is the same as rewriting the definition of "lesbian" to include trans people.

You are quite aware of the intent and the spirit of the definition of bisexual as it has been used for decades by bisexual people, I am sure. So trying to rewrite it now in a disingenuous way doesn't give you credibility. Incidentally you also have a habit of putting words in other people's mouths. I've never thought of trans people as "degenerate." But nice try.

If you can't stick to an honest argument, you are not in a position to call anyone else dishonest, friend.

[–]throwaway999 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You really think that "attraction to males and females" is a "rewritten" definition of bisexuality? Is "female homosexual" a "rewritten" definition of "lesbian" as well because it's exactly the same as the definition of "bisexual" in that it only describes the sexes one is attracted to, the only difference being that the definition of "lesbian" also includes the sex of the subject of the orientation.

What exactly is the "original" definition of bisexuality then?

And it seems you're getting confused between attraction to trans people and actually being trans. I never said that you thought trans people are degenerate, but I'm assuming that you consider bisexuals who are attracted to trans people to be fetishists, and that's where I added my own label "degenerate" to describe them.

My argument is honest. Bisexual = attraction to males and females. What's your argument? "No, I don't like that and it makes us look bad; I want to specifically exclude bisexuals who are attracted to trans people."