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[–]insta 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I’m convinced that the further left you go the more you don’t understand the people who disagree with you. These people think their political opposition are all comic book-tier super villains. Just motivated out of seething irrational hate and nothing else. It’s ridiculous, these people are so closed minded.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I’m convinced that the further left you go the more you don’t understand the people who disagree with you.

This goes both ways: have you even been on /pol/?

These people think their political opposition are all comic book-tier super villains.

Again, this is not exclusive to one political leaning: go take a look at the right-wing propaganda from the 60s, how it paints their opposition as cartoon-tier caricatures.

Hell, the anti-drug shit was guilty of this shit as well, or you don't remember the whole "MARIJUANA, THE PLANT WITH IT'S ROOTS ON HELL" shit from around the same time?

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

/pol/ is for trolls, that's why it exists. The fact that political discussion ever happened there is amazing, it certainly doesn't anymore.

I do think the principle that U.S. conservatives understand U.S. liberals better than the other way around holds true. Liberals control education and civic institutions (unions, mainline protestant churches, charity organizations, civil service positions, etc.) Most importantly, liberals have become the exclusive viewpoint represented in media. Conservatives have very little public voice or self-representation. They are the counterculture now, and have been since the second Obama administration. Alternative media is by default conservative now. Look at Said it!

Liberals very rarely get exposed to conservative culture, conservatives get exposed to both the mainstream and their own subculture. Conservatives have many and frequent opportunities to learn about and examine liberals, liberals seem to fear and avoid doing the same.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

/pol/ is for trolls, that's why it exists.

Trolls don't take themselves seriously, their pourpose is to cause chaos. The new denizens of /pol/ legitimately believe on the shit they spew and think they're the forefront of some kind of political movement, even though they're just a bunch of fat boomers posting on an internet imageboard.

The Qanon case exemplifies this better then I ever could: they took what a shitposter said as true. They fell for the equivalent of the "my father works at Nintendo" meme and invaded the capitol because of it.

I do think the principle that U.S. conservatives understand U.S. liberals better than the other way around holds true. Liberals control education and civic institutions (unions, mainline protestant churches, charity organizations, civil service positions, etc.) Most importantly, liberals have become the exclusive viewpoint represented in media. Conservatives have very little public voice or self-representation.

Yes, they do so... Inside their own bubbles.

The red states are still controled predominantly by the conservatives, reflecting conservative culture and beliefs.

What people miss in this discussion is that there's a world outside of the internet. Yes, Google and their associated companies are left wing and act upon these beliefs when they censor people, but outside of the internet there's still many places where conservatives have institutional power.

Conservatives have very little public voice or self-representation. They are the counterculture now, and have been since the second Obama administration.

How is conservatism countercultural if the people behind it today are the same career politicians which have been in power for decades now? How's this subversive in any way?

Conservatism as a whole is allergic to subversion, valuing caution, order and hierarchy. It simply can't be subversive without betraying itself.

I'm not even going to touch on the 'cultural' part of countercultural, because the catch here is obvious.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What I like to do is check in on a few liberal sources/ communities I'm familiar with (or used to participate in,) just to reality check a little every few days- see what they're yapping about, skim the top stories, get a general feel for what world liberals are living in in comparison to mine. Compare and contrast, basically. If something big happens, say Biden's speech Thursday night, I'll pop over just to see if there's a difference in reporting and what that difference is.

So, for instance, let's take four conservative sources that kind of run the gamut: The Daily Caller, The Post Millenial, Zero Hedge, and Patriots.win.

Top stories today are mostly memorializing 9/11, the Biden admin killing an aide worker and his family in a drone strike, and legal questions regarding the new vaccine mandate. Depending on the flavor of the outlet, of course.

That's the conservative world today.