Men's IssuesAnother example of the incel to trans pipeline

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[–]justagaydude123[S] 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Poor guy is just lonely but the groomers are just chomping at the bit to convince this kid he's trans.

I hate that men tend to be so bullheaded and aggressive and competitive and that people don’t respect me for not always being like that.

If you needed more evidence that GNC boys are in trouble. The whole post is really sad.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure they were chomping at the bit so much as being trans was the reality for some of them, so they looked at his situation through that lens, and of course, he directly asked if they thought he was trans.

But yeah it's sad and I hope he finds his way to a better place. I read that entire conversation, because it actually had some substance and empathy coming from people who commented, rather than just agenda-pushing. It was almost refreshingly decent. But yeah, if he walked into a trans context to express this and ask what they thought, then of course he'll get responses thusly framed.

[–]Bright_paintingLoad, lesbian biologist 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That guy don't really sound like an incel. He doesn't sound hateful, he just sounds like an extremely lonely person. What he needs is a close friend and some therapy, not being dragged into this rabbit hole of trans stuff.

[–]insta 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I mean, technically “incel” is just involuntary celibate. All the extra rage stuff usually comes with it but is not necessary part & parcel.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There are 2 different definitions at least. The first is for a real involuntary celibate and the second is for a person who just believes they are. So it actually describes a voluntary celibate who just blames others for their problems. And it is by far the more common usage of the term.

[–]insta 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think the problem is the widespread use of the word "incel". Twitter folk use it interchangeably for anyone dunking on feminism. It's the mirror image of "cuck" IMO. You can't just call everyone who disagrees with you a cuck or incel.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the mirror image of "cuck" IMO.

Never thought of it that way before but it's true.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The guy isn't an incel, as others have said he's not acting entitled to sex or blaming women in general. He's got a far too rigid idea of what it means to be a man and beats himself up when he doesn't want to live that way.

I think the comments are almost self aware too.. "Oh you don't align to society's stereotypes of being a man? I felt the same way and then realised I must be a woman uwu" Funny that.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Desperately needs therapy. Sounds like he behaves in a manner that creeps everyone else out but has no understanding of how or why.

[–]Rosefield 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't believe this guy. Of course his first post makes it look like he is an inncocent victim but then there are also these comments he made:

Suddenly you just start getting completely excluded from group events, they start making excuses or lying to not hang out with you when really they’re just spending time with someone else.

but when you spend every day for a whole week asking a lot of people if they wanna do something, and they’re all busy and then you see on social media or hear later that they were all having fun group adventures without you on those days, or they make plans with you and then bail at the last minute for something more interesting,

If several people "suddenly" start to avoid & exclude him then the problem is he himself and his behavior. Either there is something he isn't telling or he doesn't realize that it's his own actions drive people away.

If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.

He doesn't even talk about what he might do wrong. He is blaming everyone else for his problems. Nothing is his fault, it's everyone else who is mean to him. -eyeroll- I call bullshit.

This post is 100% not the whole truth.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can't say how much of that is a lack of self-awareness or bullshit or just bad luck finding too many shallow people, but I feel for the guy, he's clearly having a hard time and needs some help. I hope he gets it.

I was actually amazed at how restrained the trans part of the conversation was. On other sites it'd be a lot more culty and insistent than it was in this example. So he's got that going for him, FWIW.

He probably needs feedback and coaching about how he interacts with people and needs to be in a better location to meet more compatible people.

[–]filbs111 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"I wish I could be genuinely excited over something stupid or trivial because it makes me happy."

Follow sports.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]Destresse🇨🇵 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Huh... That's interesting. I read his post and was a bit surprised. Gender roles are not enforced to that extent around me. Sure, in an environment full of men I'm usually assumed to be the one the guys confide in. But after 5min of talking to me, people usually understand that, no, I'm not the one equiped for that. And the guys have no problem going to the guy who is equiped for that for emotional support.

As usual my brain went in a million different directions.

Maybe he lives in a place where gender roles are way more enforced, maybe he hasn't actually tried vey hard to be close to his guy friends because he's limited by his beliefs, maybe he has those kinds of personalities — like mine lol — that makes him lose himself in his thoughts and lose sight of reality for a few minutes, maybe he's socially awkward, maybe he's being dramatic, maybe it's a matter of giving-receiving and he doesn't realise he's not giving much and that's the reason he's not getting anything.

Whatever it is, it's sad to see.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

USA culture is crazy sexist to a parody level.