DiscussionThe Truth about Autogynephilia. Women’s attire was not the true object of such a man’s affections, he concluded: rather, the clothes were the means whereby a man gave life to that object, namely himself in female form. “Autogynephilia” means love of oneself as a woman.

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[–]censorshipment 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I've already read this and responded to it in the GC sub. What I forgot to say there is that this is a form of autosexuality: attraction to yourself.

I'm an autosexual... I'm attracted to my own body and my own voice (I'm attracted to women with deep/husky voices). I think it is a sexual coping mechanism that I developed during childhood when I desperately wanted to have sex with other girls but was told I wasn't old enough, so I began masturbating at age 7 until I was allowed to date girls at age 14.

But I think autogynephilia is about straight white men getting off to being a marginalized group, as I said on the GC sub. They transform themselves from the least oppressed group to "trans women" in order to get aroused by being a hated minority group. It's a paraphilia.

[–]Chipit[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

straight white men getting off to being a marginalized group

I disagree; it's very much a sexual fetish. It was a thing long before Critical Theory began awarding oppression olympics medals to the most identities.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah even reading this article itself you see how they came to see what AGP is

At the same time I do think there is another different category of people which do fit that other description. Once the oppression Olympics started these other people jumped in looking for attention.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Once the oppression Olympics started these other people jumped in looking for attention.

A lot of white incels like to do this: they transition in order to gain opression points to flaunt around.

Some white girls also do this for the same reason: today being a white girl on most contexts is nearly the same as being a white men, ao they cling to non-binary identities to gain some social capital in the woke circles they frequent.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just wrote a comment a couple that is essentially the same point as yours. There are multiple different reasons for why people choose to identify as transgender. AGP has been around for ages, but more people have begun identifying as transgender who have nothing to do with AGP/AAP. A list of such reasons that I wrote out ages ago:

  • Feelings of gender dysphoria

  • Moral (and political) beliefs

  • Gender-nonconformity without any gender dysphoria

  • Fetishism

  • Peer pressure

  • Government-mandated transition

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At the same time I do think there is another different category of people which do fit that other description. Once the oppression Olympics started these other people jumped in looking for attention.

People with unhealthy narcissism. They are the group that is so grossly muddying the waters and making life difficult for people just trying to live their lives, whether they are LGB or some variety of trans. They are exploitative opportunists, always. And many people do not pick up on the red flags and don't understand they are getting played, and thus we get problems like woke homophobia and the slur "TERF." (ETA: Though, homophobia and misogyny generally have to exist in a person before these become meaningful to express, so the victim claims of TRAs with unhealthy narcissism have a natural companion in the homophobia and misogyny harbored by some onlookers who then become their enablers.)