Oh, the fact that you're seeking the company of the same-sex indicates that something is so wrong with you in that you can't find someone wiling to be with you and are desperate. So desperate that you'd settle for the same sex, as I can't even imagine lowering myself enough to do that(as it disgusts me). So even a demonstrated loser like me is too good for you. You should be falling over yourself trying to date me then.

Wow. I've never thought about it this way. Do you think that's really what they believe? I mean, now you say it like that, it's totally consistent with much of the rhetoric in the transgender debate-- the level of entitlement, the homophobia and expressed disgust about same-sex attraction... it's just a total mindset-shift for me, to consider. Wow.

So, as frighteningly low-quality as they are considered by themselves or others, they are still securely smug in that they view SSA people to be by default an even lower quality of person.

Ahhhh. You know, this reminds me of how in the pre-Civil War era (US I mean, sorry if you're from another country), the elite class in the South would pitch racist beliefs as a way to mollify the poorer white Southerners. Ultimately it still comes down to dehumanization of an oppressed minority, and falsehoods about the humanity and wholeness of people in that minority group.

It goes back to what I commented previously about SSA being perceived to be a subversive kink

Yup was about to reference that as well. Or not even just a subverse kink... that it's wrong, morally, that there's something wrong with us. That's why they insist on calling us "queer," too, and if we protest, they call us bigots and shameful for protesting. Makes me want to loudly push back against the q-slur more than ever.

People who also say "Sexuality is not a choice.", but without really believing their own words.

That's true... perhaps not everyone who says this actually believes it. Maybe they don't realize. Or are at least partially swayed by misinformation spread by the transgender movement that suggests otherwise.

Add in the revisionist first-brick mythology of heroism and sacrifice to that and the victim-hood narrative and you have an LGB being unfairly indebted to satisfy the whims of every Trans person all the time without complaints.

Yup yup yup. And I always forget, many people my age or younger probably believe this stuff, too.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It's given me a lot to think about. I think all these points are really important. I wonder if we are underestimating the threat that colonization by the kink community poses to LGB people. "Pride" is a word that I have grown uneasy hearing, because these days it often entails promoting homophobic beliefs, and often by celebrating same sex attraction as something that is deviant.

Tempted to make a post about this topic, lol. It really is a game changer, considering that many people-- many liberal people, I mean (I already know firsthand that many conservatives do)-- think of same-sex attracted sexual orientations as deviant, in all likelihood.