Indoctrination / DoublethinkPoint me to one "t*rf" who says all THAT...

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[–][deleted] 34 insightful - 2 fun34 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

That's a lot of gibberish. Pretty sure every "TERF" knows the difference between an AGP and a homosexual trans woman.

[–]spicebutton 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Theyre humiliated that the mainstream knows this so they intentionally try to essentialize and twist things around. "Terfs say HSTS secretly want to fuck women and that's why they identify as women!" uh...huh. He knows what he is.

And theyre the ones with the freaky friday/magic body swap theories: I'm a straight woman trapped inside a gay man's body!"..."No WAY! I'm a gay man trapped inside a straight woman's body!" lol

ok im editing my comment. I reread everything that person wrote and...most terfs come from advanced, culturally sophisticated communities (because they had to be this way out of necessity). Most "terfs" used to be white lesbians, white straight women and some gay men and so on. But now there are a bunch of incredibly ignorant, culturally impoverished and bigoted black women "joining in", with no theory, no critical thinking andbarely understand what any of this is except that it's probably an illuminati plot to turn everyone gay as a plan concocted by the scheming jews.

"Terfs" are a small group of intelligent people (and no, im not saying this to flatter them) but theyre a puddle of "thought leaders" that need to be a proper mouth piece so they can lead the ocean of heterosexual bigoted idiots from other communities who start spewing their hyper conservative garbage to make us look like idiots.

Ovarit was deliberating on whether it's appropriate to give invite codes to people from the subreddit "femaledatingstrategy" and theyre all very polite (Ovarit people) but you could tell how uncomfortable some people felt at the massive cultural differences between the people at Ovarit and the femaledatingstrategy (lipstickalley) group.

Now ovarit spends just as much time trying to "help" these new people understand that transing is not an illuminati plot and there are different reasons for it and HSTS is very different from AGP since HSTS are heavily encouraged to convert or be fixed. And now some people at ovarit are spreading the misinformation that HSTS people have some massive fetish for women and do it sexually as well, even though theyre the ones who've been documented at 3 or 4 insisting theyre a girl. Do Lesbians transition because they cant stop fetishizing straight men? lol

This person might not be lying at the kind of "terfs" he's encountered but i dont even consider them to be "terfs".

[–]reluctant_commenter 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But now there are a bunch of incredibly ignorant, culturally impoverished and bigoted black women "joining in", with no theory, no critical thinking andbarely understand what any of this is except that it's probably an illuminati plot to turn everyone gay as a plan concocted by the scheming jews.

Do you have any source for this claim whatsoever? "Culturally impoverished"? I am no fan of radical feminism but this seems like a far-fetched claim to make about it... I agree that people engaging some sort of conspiracy-theory mindset about the transgender movement is misinformed and unhelpful.

femaledatingstrategy (lipstickalley)

Those are two different groups. Are you suggesting they're all the same people...?

[–]spicebutton 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm making invidious comments and you're not reading through the subtext. In one sentence, i just come out and say it. I complimented radical feminists as learned people with education, theory and a knowledge of history. Theyre a unique activist community that's forced to read and learn and they have no choice but to confront and wrestle with theories.

There's another group that insists on speaking without knowing much and all they have is complaints instead of solutions and even their solutions or diagnoses is pretty stupid. Radical feminists are in no way culturally impoverished...but there's a flood of "culturally impoverished" black women coming into terf communities who know nothing and refuse to learn and they make everyone they associate with look like idiots. Theyre borderline "Hotep", illuminati, jews are doing it...theyre basically right wing lunatics with barely any understanding of the outside world and they make actual terfs look like idiots. Terfs are trying to contain them and be incredibly diplomatic about it, but i mean...the level of bigotry and ignorance they have to contend with in "quarantining" these people must be exhausting to them.

Femaledatingstrategy, it's mods and lots of its userbase share an incredibly large overlap between them and lipstickalley, which is almost exclusively black. I've been on there as well. Good luck trying to find any useful information there to educate you on how to stop transing people. The best you can get is "theyre nasty...and i hear theyre all gay men". It's just.... theyre hopeless and stupid and insist on cooking in the kitchen with mommy because theyre big girls too even though theyre going to destroy half the kitchen, ruin the food and then blame it all on someone else. Theyre a problem.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm making invidious comments and you're not reading through the subtext. In one sentence, i just come out and say it.

I was confused by your comment so I asked. Thanks for elaborating.

but there's a flood of "culturally impoverished" black women coming into terf communities who know nothing and refuse to learn and they make everyone they associate with look like idiots. Theyre borderline "Hotep", illuminati, jews are doing it...theyre basically right wing lunatics with barely any understanding of the outside world and they make actual terfs look like idiots. Terfs are trying to contain them and be incredibly diplomatic about it, but i mean...the level of bigotry and ignorance they have to contend with in "quarantining" these people must be exhausting to them.

Do you have any examples of this? I have never seen a flood of black women, specifically, coming into radfem spaces or the broader gender dysphoria debate, with "culturally impoverished" views-- which sounds like an unfair and sweeping generalization to make about any one demographic.

Femaledatingstrategy, it's mods and lots of its userbase share an incredibly large overlap between them and lipstickalley, which is almost exclusively black. I've been on there as well.

Interesting. I've looked at FDS before and my impression was of a confusing mish-mash of common-sense advice and narcissistic insanity. I have not looked at LSA much, will take a look.

Good luck trying to find any useful information there to educate you on how to stop transing people. The best you can get is "theyre nasty...and i hear theyre all gay men".

That is a shame to hear.

It's just.... theyre hopeless and stupid and insist on cooking in the kitchen with mommy because theyre big girls too even though theyre going to destroy half the kitchen, ruin the food and then blame it all on someone else. Theyre a problem.

That sounds like an infantilizing characterization.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Could be a coincidence, but this thread was posted today on LSA, possibly in response to this comment.