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[–]Criticallacitirc 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

So I would say I'm a gender neutral man, but I'm generally smooth & have long hair. So I often get hit up by chasers who say in their profiles they're "straight" & only into trans women. I'll specifically say, I'm not trans. They'll respond how it's okay and then they'll go off how they want to suck my cock or whatever.

I feel like the reason so many femme gnc guys have adopted a "non-man" identity is to soothe the delusions of their chasers. That it's not gay to suck a cock, because it's not a man. If these men could just admit they are atleast bisexual & are attracted to effeminate men, I would think some of this would calm down. Unfortunately I don't see that happening.

[–]CaptainMooseEx-Bathhouse Employee 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

So I often get hit up by chasers who say in their profiles they're "straight" & only into trans women. I'll specifically say, I'm not trans. They'll respond how it's okay and then they'll go off how they want to suck my cock or whatever.

I feel like the reason so many femme gnc guys have adopted a "non-man" identity is to soothe the delusions of their chasers.

This is why I find trans-identified men like Blaire White so disingenuous when they say that the "straight" men they are with cannot possibly be bi because they are "only into transwomen and cis women." They sell this narrative to anyone watching while gay men feel gaslighted because we know for a damn fact that these men aren't only into surgically altered men on hormones- they often go for twinks, too, and any other guy who is thin and hairless. But if gay men speak out about this, we get met with a chorus of "hurr durr you can't tell someone what their sexual orientation is."

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Fucking thank you for this. Blaire White (and now Samantha Lux) are some of the biggest liars when it comes to this. They know damn well that they were attracting the same men they do now that they did before they adopted the Gender woo nonsense. And even then, Blaire ended up with a closet case bisexual (possible homosexual) man anyway. I hadn't seen blaire's old videos in awhile and recently radical feminist YouTuber Vanessa Vokey did a video on Blaire addressing the internalized homophobia that was evident in his boyfriend. The way that Joey reacted when he saw old photos of Blaire before he started going for the bimbo look (he's still a man, I don't buy into transgenderism period and his reactions were pretty telling.

I look like this and as you can see, I don't have hormone moobs or moob implants or surgically alterations but my look is still very feminine in comparison to the average man and even I get these men who claim to only be into trans-identified males. And I know for a fact Blaire did as well but the common thing was that these men suffered from internalized homophobia and only seek guys like us out for sex which isn't productive when you're trying to find a real relationship.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While I'm sure that many (perhaps most) of the men attracted to feminine-looking guys are indeed closeted, plausible-deniability-seeking gay or bi, it seems like at least some may be straight fetishists, don't you think? The kind of heterosexual men who mistake female-gender-role accoutrements such as dresses/skirts, high-heeled shoes, makeup, long hair, and so on for "woman"-- because they don't actually SEE women at all. Just the artificial trappings. These are the types for whom women with short hair, non-"girly" clothes, and no makeup don't even count as real women. They may also have AGP, and therefore react to feminine men as an extension of this fetish: humiliation is hawt-->feminization of men is the ultimate humiliation-->it doesn't get any hawt-er than feminine (thus hella-humiliated) men.

Does any of this square with your own experience?

[–]DiscoStegosaurus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I hope this isn’t totally out of line, and I know that it’s off topic, but I absolutely love your look. I’m a straight woman who lurks this sub for its sanity, so I try not to intrude on the conversations, but I just wanted to tell you that.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Haha it's all good. Thank you :)

[–]HelloMomo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The way that Joey reacted when he saw old photos of Blaire before he started going for the bimbo look

Anyone got a link to that video? I'm curious now.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Criticallacitirc 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

100% agree. However in Blaires SuperStraight video, she says none of the men that has been with her are entirely straight, she says they're probably 1 or 2s on the Kinsey scale.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Doesn't matter what he says. He's just too chickenshit to tell the truth. He knows damn well that no straight men are going for him period and that the men who try to get at him are Bisexuals (Most of them closeted). There's no need for the fucking kinsey scale in this equation, the simple fact of the matter is that he was/is attracting closet-case bisexuals, end of story. Sorry to be so blunt but I can't with Blaire and his disingenuous sense of self..

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My experience has been the same with those guys you talked about. Just closet case deluded bisexual men who's internalized homophobia holds them back from truly experiencing attraction to feminine gay men.

I feel like the reason so many femme gnc guys have adopted a "non-man" identity is to soothe the delusions of their chasers. That it's not gay to suck a cock, because it's not a man.

Yeah i think this is true for a good many as well. These Femme GNC gay guys think the only way they can attract men is to play into the delusion of the chasers but it doesn't work anyway. All this does is get you empty promises and still being treated like you're disposable.

If these men could just admit they are atleast bisexual & are attracted to effeminate men, I would think some of this would calm down

I agree. But this is why feminine gay men need to stop with the delusion. Stop thinking you're a type of woman just because you prefer femininity. And stop playing into the internalized homophobia fuel of these Bisexual men. Don't let these men infer that you're a woman because you know you aren't. The point is GNC men need to stand up for themselves.