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[–]Rial[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Even if the 'talk therapy' is telling them that if they're gay they'll go to hell? One of the main lesbians said she was sent to a program every weekend with kids as young as 11 being told that.

Like, celibacy isn't an option in a lot of them, you have to marry and have kids with someone you can't find attractive.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Anything can be harmful. As a child I was told some weird things in a totally new-age context that had long-term damaging effects.

I don't agree with what LDS teaches, especially around homosexuality, but I still believe they have a right to teach those things to their kids. The alternative -- the state dictating what parents can and cannot teach their children -- is far worse. This is where we are going with trans ideology, and unless we're willing to maintain a certain level of intellectual principle around the subject we will lose one way or the other (all trans all the time or only heterosexual sex missionary position is allowed).

[–]HelloMomo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't agree with what LDS teaches, especially around homosexuality, but I still believe they have a right to teach those things to their kids. The alternative — the state dictating what parents can and cannot teach their children — is far worse.

I agree.

And honestly, peaking trans has opened my mind about people who disapprove of homosexuality. I don't like it, but I do think they're genuinely entitled to their opinions, in a way that I didn't before.

It's not my place to tell Jackie Hill-Perry how to live her life. And more than that, I think it's at least in the realm of possibility that her religious faith—and even adhering to it in this specific way—might bring her more peace and joy than a romantic relationship would. I don't know. But there's a supreme arrogance to saying that what I personally think is the one and only right answer.

[–]Lizzythelezzo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not my place to tell Jackie Hill-Perry how to live her life. And more than that, I think it's at least in the realm of possibility that her religious faith—and even adhering to it in this specific way—might bring her more peace and joy than a romantic relationship would. I don't know. But there's a supreme arrogance to saying that what I personally think is the one and only right answer.

I have wondered if some of these people have tried same sex dating and it didn't work out well for them. Who knows? Maybe some of them had an abusive relationship, or just found the small dating pool discouraging.