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[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Emm, then I would be a silver lesbian by this definition, but I never counted it because my experience was too young (like before puberty young) and kinda pretend I never touched a dick, even though technically I did have sexual relationships. In traditional heterosexual culture, complete sex and virginity is only penis in vagina., not oral nor anal. I still don't get why in USA culture anal seem to get higher point than oral as sex. The anus isn't more sex organ than a mouth is, and surely anal doesn't make more sex than oral.

[–]theytookourjerbsXX only. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I feel like it would be fair to say one has lost their virginity with anal and vaginal sex imo, because it does involve penetration, regardless if you're gay, lesbian, straight, or bi.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Technically a blowjob is penetrating too. Also, the fact that must to be penetrative to count is phallocentric bs. And the idea of losing virginity is also bs, there is nothing to lose.Virginity is made up thing like Santa. If anal counts, so does oral. They both sex. The whole idea sex is only valid when penetrating is one of the most phallocentric sexist shit, which constantly put women on women sexual relationships on a lower/less important role than the one involving male.

[–]theytookourjerbsXX only. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well woman on woman sexual relationships can include vaginal and anal sex, but with toys and mouths, but I do agree that anal, vaginal, and oral is sex, otherwise it wouldn't be called sex idk.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't consider toy sex at all. Now if you say fingers, that' different., because that's a person inside But saying putting a toy inside is more valid sex than oral sex (which i an actual person part stimulating)is crazy. It's alo another phallocentric way of thinking. I've seen comment saying lesbians can only "lose virginitity" with toys, which baically saying sex between womn only is valid is there is some plastic toy reminding of a dick, because only a phallo stuck an hole is valid sex.Just fucking bs.

[–]theytookourjerbsXX only. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well saying that lesbians can only lose virginity with toys is bs, I agree. Because a lesbian can lose her virginity with another woman in many different ways, like you mentioned fingers