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[–]CaptainMooseEx-Bathhouse Employee 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

  1. I would say it was a negative experience being gay in high school (2007-2011). While I didn't experience homophobic abuse everyday, there were some incidents that majorly impacted how I interacted with my classmates, how safe I felt in that building, and how I felt about the trustworthiness of the adults in my life. The biggest one was that, on a class trip in 2009, I was sexually assaulted out of the closet. Several of my classmates in the specialized program I was in dared a girl to give me a lap dance and the violation I felt caused me to come out in the heat of the moment. They then tried to play it off like they didn't know I was gay (trauma bonding; gaslighting), but one of them told me the next day that they had known since we were in the 8th grade. Shortly after the assault, I went through another traumatic experience at the hands of two more classmates and one of the girls involved in the dare thought my coming out was a good opportunity to talk about how she was the victim after sexually assaulting my crush (a closeted gay man) because he yelled at her.

  2. I feel like I missed out on more because of having an overbearing, boundary crossing mother. I think if I were straight, I would be like my one friend's ex-boyfriend (his mother was the one who talked her into dating him despite him having no interest in her, they ended up having a several years long relationship he couldn't break up from because mommy dearest was a psycho). I think in high school I would have had more real friends if I were straight (instead of being pushed and groomed into fulfilling the GBF sexpert role and being treated like shit every time I deviated from that by being my own person).

  3. There are definitely things I've experienced because of my sexual orientation that I would not have experienced if I were a straight man (or would have experienced differently if I were a bisexual man). It's made me hyperaware of female predators (hence one of the reasons why I rally against trans-identified women in gay men's spaces), made me selective about who I'm friends with, and made me into a much more guarded person overall.

  4. I feel that it's important for gay kids to have other gay friends, not just other gay kids in their life who are romantic prospects. A big part of why I founded the GSA in my high school was so that we could have a comfortable place to discuss experiences we had among our peers or at home because of our non-heterosexual sexual orientations that we may not have felt comfortable disclosing in front of our straight peers, however the first person to join was the girl who sexually assaulted my crush so out the door went that possibility. I think it's important to have someone similar enough to you that you can cross-reference your experiences with, even among other friends, so you know you aren't going crazy when you reflect on your interpersonal interactions. I don't think it's healthy for a gay teenager/young adult to be in a friend group that is made up exclusively of straight women because (in my experience) they will shatter your self-esteem and act like you are the bad friend for not living up to whatever Will & Grace fantasy they had in mind.

[–]DrMantisToboggan 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You bring up some interesting points vis-à-vis the complicated relationships many gay men have with straight women. Although I graduated high school in the early aughts and was closeted the entire time, which made for a miserable experience. Once I went on to college and fell into the GBF trope with different straight women, it took many years to realize how demeaning, demoralizing and toxic these friendships were. I was also a victim of sexual assault at the hands of one of my self-proclaimed fag hags. It wasn't until my mid twenties that I formed much more meaningful friendships with other gay men and even several lesbians.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's interesting. I honestly had no idea straight women could be so toxic to gay men or that it was that common. That's why it's so bs when people claim that only men are evil and women are these perfect princesses who harm no one. If I hear one sentence or other or both from someone, I won't hang out with that person.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's a reason why fag hag exists as a term. Straight women can be extremely predatory towards gay men, and it's difficult to get rid of them simply because men aren't believed/are ridiculed when they say women are harassing them.