ColonizationTrans Men Fight Back

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[–]Criticallacitirc 34 insightful - 2 fun34 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

I listened to Buck Angels interview on the Gender a wider view, honestly I know he is supposed to be "one of the good ones " but he came across as deranged & manic. Final straw for me was when he was talking about how gay men enjoyed having sex with him & his vagina, because the vagina was made for penises. This sounded like an old school homophobe.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

She's a fetishist.

[–]DropItLikeItsHot 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They're all fetishists to one degree or another, and more importantly they're reality denialists. "You must validate my perception of reality or you are a bigot" is always going to be massively problematic, whether your transness comes from gender dysphoria or autogynephilia.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The gender dysphoria for some identifying as trans is the only true part. And if that was all they wanted others to acknowledge then that would be fine with me. I can't prove it one way or the other. But any further than that is where the denial of physical reality and language corruption begins, with the 'pronouns are rohypnol' type of thing that warp perceptions and weaken arguments. I mean, if they were being honest and productive with labels they would call themselves their own sex, stop using terms for the other sex, just label themselves Dysphoric Trans, and that would help us a lot against the people with the aggressive paraphilias, who use inaccurate labels as a cudgel.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There are no "good ones". Buck Angel thinks that the gay men in those porn videos liked giving her Australian kisses, but the fact is, those non-bisexual men were paid to do it, and a lot of actors in the porn industry are addicted to drugs so they would do anything to get these drugs. Also, Buck Angel works in and promotes the pornography industry. Which is worse than prostitution, because it’s prostitution with a camera.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Which is worse than prostitution, because it’s prostitution with a camera.

Eh, I wouldn't say so.

The ones who work in prostitution (and no, I do not consider OnlyFans as being prostitution) have to deal with a lot of shit pornstars don't have to.

For instance, they 100% going to be paid for their services, because they're under a formal contract, which gives them some security. People who work in prostitution have no such luxury.

Also, pornstars don't have to deal with agressive or abusive clients, competition for prostitution points, pimps and so on.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Good points. But if you can get away from prostitution if you were a prostitution, you can put it all behind you. Whereas if you previously worked in porn, this videos of you in compromising positions are out there for anyone to see, and they are never going away.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But if you can get away from prostitution if you were a prostitution, you can put it all behind you.

Keyword: "if".

The ones who resort to prostitution in the first place have little to no formal education, so the chances of them leaving it behind are very slim.

The stigma of sex work is slowly diminishing, specially in liberal areas, which is not a surprise at all, as most mainstream productions now (aham, Sense8 and Elite) have softcore-level sex scenes. Also, the current influx of known figures doing OnlyFans has also played a factor into this.

But then again, I'm speaking from a different context than the US/Canada/UK one, so that might account for our difference in perspective.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don’t get me wrong, I’m against both prostitution and porn. And I do see your point. It’s hard to get out of prostitution, especially if you’re in a foreign country.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also, pornstars don't have to deal with agressive or abusive clients

Not true. Often producers lie to new porn stars about the scene being vanilla and direct the experienced actor to be move aggressive than was agreed upon, and the vast majority of porn is aggressive in some way.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Often producers lie to new porn stars about the scene being vanilla and direct the experienced actor to be move aggressive than was agreed upon, and the vast majority of porn is aggressive in some way.

But they can sue the studio in such cases, hell, there are already cases this is exactly what happened (and yes, I'm talking about the mainstream here).

But prostitution? Heh, good luck with that.

If a prostitute go out of their way to expose a client for such behaviour, they're going to be blacklisted (because in such circles outing clients is seen as unprofessional even by other prostitutes) at best and beaten to death at worst.

This is the equivalent of trying to sue a drug trafficker for bad business practices.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Final straw for me was when he was talking about how gay men enjoyed having sex with him & his vagina, because the vagina was made for penises.

The mask slipped, lmao!

It's interesting how tone deaf homophobic some of these HSTS FtMs can be.

[–]DrMantisToboggan 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

How is Buck Angel considered an HSTS when she thinks she's a gay man?

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This will need some explaining: Buck is a pornstar who work(ed?)s with both males and females.

A few years back, he gave an interview saying that when he's performing with men he feels like he's having gay sex and that 'gay men' love his vagina. By the way, in this same occasion he vomited 'genital fetish' bs verbatim saying that's transphobic for gay men to deny FtMs sex base on their transgender status.

I fail to see how is he's so based as people say.

[–]DrMantisToboggan 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She acknowledges that she's biologically a female, yet thinks she's having "gay" sex when men are fucking her. She sounds just as delusional as AGP transbians.

[–]justagaydude123 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He calls himself transsexual and has made it clear that he wants to change his sex. Then he got old and woke.

[–]DimDroog 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

that 'gay men' love his vagina.

I had no idea he said that.

Pretty horrible.

A gay man wouldn't love vagina anymore than a straight woman.

It's extremely selfish to think this way.

[–]usehername 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She originally identified as a lesbian before transitioning, and is also interested in women. She could be bi, or her AAP could be so advanced that the person she's fucking isn't relevant since she only gets off thinking about her AAP.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I understand it's more common in males but is the alternative really to just sweep all the shit we get from trans men under the carpet? They're far from innocent when it comes to fetishising themselves and the experiences of the opposite sex. Framing it as a "trans men are the good ones fighting against the enemy (trans women)" is just idiotic.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Indeed, you don't have to dig too deep beneath the surface

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, they should stop supporting this transing stuff completely if they want the AGP to stop taking advantage of it. In the end, there is no way to have your cake and eat it too on this. Lies beget lies. And we can't perpetually support one falsehood over the other. And why is there no mention of AAP? Buck's decision?

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The trans egg has cracked in half.

This is an interesting and positive development.

[–]howdidthishappen 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That’s interesting and I honestly hope this gets more attention.

Btw Scott Newgent founded another group before (https://www.trevoices.com/) and is generally very honest and rational about the reality of medical transition and gender dysphoria. It’s worth a read.

[–]MyLongestJourney 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I am aware of this group. I wish them luck and strength,they are going to need it. Gender cultists attack anyone who does not go along with the agenda.

Edit. Aaron a transman from the group describes the bulling he received from Morgan Oger. Yes that Oger who defunded Vancouver rape belief center. The creep doxxed him and tried to have Aaron fired.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oger also counselled and supported Jessica Yaniv until it was no longer politically expedient to do so (and was aware of Yaniv's predatory behaviours towards youth online long before it became public knowledge).

I think Aaron is on point that this is about male AGPs trying to control the narrative and suppress the fact that gender dysphoria can arise from different reasons and not necessarily mean one is 'trans' or require transition.

[–]MyLongestJourney 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oger also counselled and supported Jessica Yaniv until it was no longer politically expedient to do so (and was aware of Yaniv's predatory behaviours towards youth online long before it became public knowledge).

I know. He is a total piece of shit.

[–]DropItLikeItsHot 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think you mean Ronan Oger. I'm not calling him by his drag name. It's important to be aware of the real name of abuses as well as recognize their aliases.

[–]MyLongestJourney 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh this was his original name ? Thanks.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

AGP is definitely not a sexual orientation. It's a fetish and there's a reason so many AGPs become AGPs from massive consumption of porn.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Came here to say this. Wokies are calling every kink/fetish a "sexual orientation" these days.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh? Not what I was expecting when I read the title. This is surprisingly insightful.

[–]justagaydude123 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Too fucking late. And it's laughable that this is a Canadian org, considering Canada is the land where ball waxing is a human right.

[–]Shales123 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I support this

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They've finally realized that they need to distance themselves from AGPs in order to be taken seriously, however, Buck Angel is an AAP and there may be others on this list. There is nothing anyone can do about the situation until "transition" is no longer performed by doctors and is replaced by talk therapy and possibly medication for co-morbid mental illnesses. "Trans men" rallying against AGPs does nothing but lend credibility to their movement. They have no solutions. They're just trying to say, "we're the good ones!"

AGP is a sexual orientation

Lol, LGB (actual sexual orientations, along with straight) people won't turn straight if they stop jerking off for a year. AGP is not an orientation.

[–]pacsatonifil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So these trans men say that AGP only affects straight men! I’m sure it also affects straight women lmfao. These trans men are literally AAP.