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[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 46 insightful - 18 fun46 insightful - 17 fun47 insightful - 18 fun -  (4 children)

A lot of you are dating trans people right now and you have no idea

Their delusional bubble of reality really is as deep as the Marianas Trench isn't it.

[–]JulienMayfair 31 insightful - 4 fun31 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

I remember when I met "Margot," a transwoman friend of a friend. This was ~15 years ago. We were at a club where the lighting was low. After about five minutes, I turned to my friend and whispered in his ear, "Margot used to be a man, right?" He said, "Yes, but don't mention that you've noticed. She hates it when people notice."

Margot was 1) too tall, 2) had shoulders that were too big and wide, and 3) had an Adam's apple. And I'd say Margot actually passed pretty well.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I know a couple of trans women that I sense worry about passing, who very definitely do not. They play along when topics like women's hormone cycles come up, but don't add any personal experiences, of course. And I politely don't walk them into the same conversations I would normally have with women about such things, because I know they aren't women and therefore can't go there for real.

Neither of them is an asshole or spewing TRA bullshit so mostly I feel protective of them and cringe on their behalf about what's going on in their neck of the woods. It's got to be pretty scary to be a decent trans person right now, and that's something I've gleaned from a few I've read on Twitter. I'd worry about passing, too, if other people who identified the way I did were busy making complete asses of themselves, claiming to speak for all trans people, and causing a backlash. It's a hell of a trap to be in—not passing, while watching nutjobs smear your entire demographic as rapey, narcissistic bullies.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Neither of them is an asshole or spewing TRA bullshit so mostly I feel protective of them and cringe on their behalf about what's going on in their neck of the woods.

if they aren't actively fighting it, its still a problem. their kind are the ones in control now.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well...yes and no. Inasmuch as they fear the same bullying as everyone else gets, they are not part of the problem. Is it helpful when they speak up to counter this abuse? Yes, it is. They are in a crummy position, too. But it does carry weight when they call BS on all of this. But I wouldn't lump any healthier person in with people with obvious Cluster B personality disorders and tar them all with a "their kind" brush.