Media & ArtsA reminder that the long awaited book "Trans" by Helen Joyce is released today.

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[–]schomee 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

is she a lesbian?

[–]HelloMomo 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

She's straight, but in her interview with Megan Murphy, she talks about how of all the demographics in this, she's particularly concerned about the gay kids, and feels very protective of them. She's a mum, so I think that's why.

[–]schomee 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i watched an hour long interview James Boyce did with her. She goes the blanchard route. I think it's interesting how there's a homophobic feedback loop. I think only gay and lesbian children are vulnerable to child transing but the AGP/AAP people transition when theyre older.

So the AGP/AAP people's efforts for others to transition much younger than them only really affects gay/lesbian children and that becomes their core community that sustains them and they feed off of each other like that.

[–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That is really awesome to hear, I was going to ask if this book looked at all how these issues affect LGB people. Many GC books have been sorely lacking in sharing our perspective, and if they mention LGB at all, tend to only mention lesbians and from a radical feminist angle.

[–]HelloMomo 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Helen Joyce points to attending a detrans meeting full of young detrans lesbians as the thing that most horrified her, and galvanized her from "I should write this book," to "I will write this book, I must."

[–]millicentfawcett[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Have you read Material Girls by Kathleen Stock? She is a prominent UK lesbian, not really a radfem either although many would put her in that category solely because of her views on this topic.

Now there's been quite a few books written on the issue I think what stands out as missing is a book by a gay man aimed largely at gay men or at least from that perspective.

That's what struck me when reading the chapter on transing children and the particularly upsetting bit about Kai Shappley whose mother readily admits trying to beat the gay out of him before settling on turning him into a girl.

It's unusual that this hasn't happened yet because gay male writers have historically been at the forefront writing about harms in the past.

Anyone up for a challenge?

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

IMO this is the book I’ve most anticipated because Helen Joyce most closely speaks to my perspective and primary concerns with gender ideology. She is not an ideologue of any kind, not dogmatic in the least, she is liberal not conservative, and she immediately seized upon the gay conversion therapy aspect of transgender ideology and saw that as her call to action.

She also has a mainstream publisher not Prager and can’t be smeared by associating her with the Heritage Foundation or anything like that. I still have to find the time to dive into this book since there’s no audiobook version but I think it will be worth it.

[–]millicentfawcett[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think so. She's not strictly a feminist either or at least she didn't write about feminism or women's rights prior to this. She's worked at The Economist for a long time and has a PHD in mathematics.

She did a podcast a few days ago for The Critic with Jo Bartosch (LGB News) in which she explains how and why she got into writing about this.

https://play.acast.com/s/0e104b01-3044-5ead-9e6d-deb112ba4a43/60ec474604c59f0013610107