DiscussionIs the word "homosexual" a slur, like GLAAD and TQs say? Should it not be used because "it's offensive" or "it's clinical"?

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[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 18 insightful - 5 fun18 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 5 fun -  (14 children)

As a rule, try to avoid labeling an activity, emotion or relationship gay, lesbian, or bisexual unless you would call the same activity, emotion or relationship "straight" if engaged in by someone of another orientation. In most cases, your readers, viewers or listeners will be able to discern people's sexes and/or orientations through the names of the parties involved, your depictions of their relationships, and your use of pronouns.

Except this isn't the case anymore. When pronouns are contradictory, biological sex doesn't exist, and label/orientations are increasingly idiotic/gender based, you have to use homosexual because there is no other option.

For example: Chris and Jess are a couple. One uses they/him pronouns, the other uses just they/them. Good luck.

[–]Clitorisk 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

Why bother using a label at all?

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It stops us from pursuing the wrong person. If I know a woman is straight, I won't waste my time flirting with her. Easy as that. Not that it stops some people, but most people are reasonable.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This, exactly. Words have clear meanings so that we can better communicate our needs to each other. For some reason, they want to make the words for sexual orientations an exception to that matter only to make our lives even harder 🙃

[–]reluctant_commenter 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Words have clear meanings so that we can better communicate our needs to each other. For some reason, they want to make the words for sexual orientations an exception to that matter only to make our lives even harder

Perhaps because many extremist TRAs seem to believe that only their needs matter or exist.

[–]reluctant_commenter 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I like to use words to convey meaning. In the case of "homosexual," the meaning I'm trying to convey is, "I'm only attracted to people of the same sex as I am." That informs my boundaries: I am only willing to date people of the same sex as I am. So I would use the word "homosexual" to communicate that boundary to a potential partner.

Boundaries are important, and accurate labels can help us communicate them.

[–]Clitorisk 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I'm only attracted to people of the same sex as I am.

As a categorical rule, gay men and lesbian women are not attracted to trans women or trans men, respectively. Is communicating the fact that you are "homosexual" clearly communicating that boundary, if a trans woman and cis man are a homosexual pairing?

[–]usehername 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's not just a boundary, it's a physical impossibility for a lesbian to be attracted to men.

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's true. I was hoping that framing it in the context of boundaries might help this person understand, since it's messed up to pressure someone to date a person who they are not attracted to. Might be a troll, though.

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I see where you're coming from, but this is just another TRA troll who doesn't give a fuck about boundaries because they're excwusionawy ;~;

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are correct. And what a toxic mentality that is... "boundaries are exclusionary" sounds like narcissistic thinking.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes. Trans woman and "cis" man are a homosexual pairing.

[–]Clitorisk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So you would date a trans person of an acceptable sex?

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Theoretically, as a lesbian it is possible yes. If I was given a choice between a trans woman and a trans man, I would choose a trans man because of the female body, especially the p*ssy. However, I'm femme lesbian only attracted to other femmes, because I personally am not attracted to masculinity. Besides, trans men have effects of testosterone as well, which makes them have masculine voices or a beard, which is highly unattractive because they end up having a mix of female and male sexual characteristics. Oh, and I want woman who want to be woman lmao.

However, there ARE lesbians out there who have or are dating trans men. Lesbians who are into butch women are more prone to date trans men.

TLDR: Trans people end up having a mix of male and female sexual characteristics, even if their biological sex is, more often than not, easily clockable. Therefore, it's perfectly reasonable if anyone doesn't want to include trans people in their dating pool, regardless of their biological sex. In fact, anyone can exclude anyone for any reason at all.

[–]our_team_is_winning 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When they start redefining sex and coming up with nonsense like "trans woman" -- crossdressing fetishist is what they mean.

So you're asking if Blaire White and his boyfriend are a homosexual pairing under the new rules? Yes! When a penis meets a penis, I'm going to still say yes, that's male homosexual. And if Blaire gets his amputated, he's still XY.

And Blaire White's bf is a rare exception among gay men (I think a rare exception?) because he is attracted to a man who has destroyed/hides his male appearance. I'm female, so gay men please tell me: I know masc 4 masc is a big thing. Does "masc 4 crossdresser" exist?