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[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Comments like this one have been bothering me lately:

I feel like any supposed tension is overstated. Most LGBT people, including all letters, are normies and don't give a shit. All these bickering is mostly online by total shut-ins.

Yeah, we get it, Tumblr and Twitter (and even Reddit) aren't real life. It doesn't mean the feelings of "total shut-ins" don't exist though, and it doesn't mean they aren't influencing social norms.

What users saying things like that ignore are how the "online total shut-ins" are the loud and now oppressive majority. Their way of thinking is influenced by, and repeated by, big tech and mainstream media. Tech/media reaches EVERYWHERE and EVERYONE, and online/internet is a part of everyday life now - this isn't the 1990s. These voices are being heard by the masses, and laws in the western world are literally being warped and changed to accommodate their views.

There ARE actual real life groups fighting about it. There have been for AT LEAST a few years. Go to any protest where women's rights could be a subject - feminism, lesbian/dyke marches, Pride, sex-segregated safe spaces, etc - and there will be aggression and violence towards supporters. The aggression and violence does not stop until support ends and identity-inclusion begins.

"Normies" don't involve themselves in these displays regularly, so they think the situations that occur are few and far between, and are just being overblown. "Normies" need to open their eyes and realize reality as they know it is being shaped and reformed around them, and they're on the chopping block too. There is no more discussion or debate allowed, and the changes are advancing faster and faster.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah the thing that sucks is that the vast majority of people don't pay that much attention but the tiny minority of Al'Queerida on Twitter position themselves into jobs which end up screwing over everyone.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Awaken the normies. Normies wake up when the blankets and covers are pulled off gently over time, or when they're torn off all at once and burned in a fury.

It doesn't always have to be Stormé in a crowd. It can sometimes a personal comparison the other person relates to, and finally feels that someone deeply understands what they've been afraid to say. Or it can be supporting a shitty joke they made, but letting them know there's a line we/I will not cross and establishing a specific boundary. We don't know which one they'll respond to, so individual consideration is needed.

IMO, we have to be smart and accept small victories where we get them to regain strength, rather than try to topple and overthrow the swarm all at once.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Al'Queerida

Brilliant.

And yes, because normies don’t see the gravity of this problem, TRAs and other some activists have been able to infect work, education, law enforcement and other aspects of life.

[–]RedJackalRampant homosexual 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sounds like a taco joint XD

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds more like a kebab shop.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Al'Queerida

Haha I love this

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There ARE actual real life groups fighting about it. There have been for AT LEAST a few years. Go to any protest where women's rights could be a subject - feminism, lesbian/dyke marches, Pride, sex-segregated safe spaces, etc - and there will be aggression and violence towards supporters. The aggression and violence does not stop until support ends and identity-inclusion begins.

And the worst part is the people who are claiming that the aggression and violence are just from fringe groups are essentially gaslighting and directly contributing to the problem!

[–]Retardation_station 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I don’t know how you smooth over a gap like that

Gonna have to consult the lesbians about that one.

Sorry. I had to.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

That's exactly where my mind went too.