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[–]our_team_is_winning 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Some human sex researchers believe that "women are too pure to have fetishes

So it's not actually a fact, it's just a suspicion with no research to back it up.

Women definitely have some kind of "fetish" - if you define it as sexual attraction to something other than our sex organs or sexed body parts [I mean, broad shoulders and a muscular chest isn't a sex organ, but it's definitely a very male thing, so I wouldn't call attraction to that a "fetish" if you're into men.]

I was thinking specifically of the vampire craze. At one point there was just one TV series after another with "sexy vampires" -- and of course the Twilight books and all the others in that genre (nothing new actually) -- and so many women glued to them. Getting turned on by that seems like a fetish to me.

[–]usehername[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I know you weren't talking to me, but I wanted to say that when females read yaoi, they usually imagine themselves as one of the males, which is the AAP aspect; the attraction to the males isn't generally the fetishistic part.

So it's not actually a fact, it's just a suspicion with no research to back it up.

This is anecdotal, but I have met AAPs before, and you can find people online saying they are AAP and describing all the signs (as analogous to AGP). However the idea that "women are too pure to have paraphilias" is contrary to the evidence, and to me, it only seems logical that there would be a reverse of AGP.

I was thinking specifically of the vampire craze. At one point there was just one TV series after another with "sexy vampires" -- and of course the Twilight books and all the others in that genre (nothing new actually) -- and so many women glued to them. Getting turned on by that seems like a fetish to me.

Yes, definitely. I think that would also fall under the umbrella of either sadism or masochism, but more specific. Some people really do identify as "vampiresexual/vampsexual".

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

yaoi

I've been trying to unravel why the medium for this is strictly artistic. Perhaps it's just too niche, but it's been suggested to me that autism plays a role insofar as the anime genre uses exaggerated emotions, which are apparently more readily understood, yaoi or not.

[–]usehername[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Possibly, but there's also the fact that drawn nudity is a lot less jarring than actual nudity. These gals may also watch live gay porn, though, but pedophilia is a common theme in yaoi, which can't be done live without severe consequences.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

There are common themes in literature that women tend to find erotic. Beast-taming is probably the short way to put it. 50 shades? Beauty and the beast? This does however strike me as an epiphenomena.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Epiphenomena of what? Masochism?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I don't think so.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Ok, epiphenomena of what?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I don't know. Me and others have seen the pattern but nobody knows what to make of it. It's intuition that tells me it's an epiphenomenon. It's also something I've only really seen in works of fiction, and I haven't exactly collected any real-life anecdotes. There is a dichotomy of what fiction appeals to women, and what they tend to seek from partners.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Are you describing women sexualising certain interpersonal dynamics? E.g. emotional availability, pursuit, status, power dynamics, availability, safety etc. Or are you getting at something else? Because you could pick vampires, wearwolves, K-pop bands, and dishy unavailable early 19th century landowners; and I would think they all hit much the same emotional beats.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I'm thinking a specific class including Christian Grey and vampires, for instance. Not K-pop.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

How would you link Christian Grey and vampires?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Dangerous bad boys that can be tamed through love.

[–]usehername[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Beauty in the beast is not erotic literature for women, it's propaganda for girls to accept arranged marriages with abusive men.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The theme of beauty and the beast. Not specifically the Disney film.