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[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Having this issue with a kid of my own. I want her to be accepting and loving. Now how does that fit "your body is wrong, change and drug it". Yeah now I'm that bad guy because I don't want my daughter to cut her breasts off when she's a teen. That should not be what I have to worry about!

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they go after them before high school.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'd say bring it up, maybe in relation to current politics so it isn't too personal. Remember you have a little bit of authority here, "My gay brother-in-law explained to me that transitioning children is often homophobic abuse" is, well, authoritative. I would also point out the prevalence of pedophiles in gender activism.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think mentioning the pedophiles might be a step too far in the 'conspiracy nut' range. Yes, it is true in many aspects, but LGB is still squarely attached to T, which can bring up unfortunate implications, especially since gay men are still seen as predatory by many.

[–]reluctant_commenter 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I guess that sort of depends on how close you are to your SIL. Do you have any sense of how she feels about LGB people, the transgender movement, or the existence of "gender identity"? Might be helpful to try and sound her out a little bit first before going for a full-fledged conversation.

It could really help your niece to have this conversation sooner rather than later, though. The biggest things to emphasize, IMO:

  • If a girl likes to wear "boy clothes" or is interested in "boy activities" (or vice versa), that doesn't mean she's trans, it doesn't mean she's "questioning her gender identity" and it doesn't even mean she's lesbian/gay/bisexual or that she's going to grow up to be LGB.

  • Medical interventions for "transgender children," such as puberty blockers, testosterone, and surgeries, are not backed up by scientific evidence. You could cite the UK court ruling for Keira Bell's case-- I'm forgetting the wording but basically, they said that children under 16 could not sufficiently consent to medical transition. Even if, say, your SIL supported her child socially transitioning at a young age, it would still be worth emphasizing that medical transition at such a young age is dangerous and has serious harmful effects that many psychiatrists and doctors prescribing them don't mention (or sometimes don't even know about).

[–]justagaydude123[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for the advice

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No problem, I hope it goes well. :) I have a lot of respect for you for even trying, conversations like the one you describe are really hard to have these days!

[–]Shales123 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I talk about this to as many people as I can. I don't give a shit anymore if people call me a terf.

[–]powpowpowpow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Show her Abigail Shier's book, I think it would should the bigger picture quite well. Besides that, pay attention to what she is being taught in school and show her why what they are teaching is wrong and maybe confront the teachers if that is necessary

[–]justagaydude123[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think I will. Shrier seems pretty on the ball.