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[–][deleted] 42 insightful - 1 fun42 insightful - 0 fun43 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If lesbian is just love of women then clearly homosexual women need our own term for our sexuality, but these same people got so mad when we did create super lesbian.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 34 insightful - 11 fun34 insightful - 10 fun35 insightful - 11 fun -  (1 child)

All it is is the love of women.

Straight men can be lesbians too then. Cool.

[–]AugustiJade 29 insightful - 9 fun29 insightful - 8 fun30 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

Is that not what transbians are?

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is why being exclusive is a good thing.

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 24 insightful - 11 fun24 insightful - 10 fun25 insightful - 11 fun -  (6 children)

I don't call myself a lesbian as a bisexual woman... because... I'm not 😂 loving dick/having dick are pretty much the main disqualifiers. Opps must have had my TERF-OS this morning 💩

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'm so baffled by bisexual women who call themselves lesbians. What's the point? I can get being confused, but staying confused...

[–]dramasexual 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It manages to be both homophobic and biphobic lmfao

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because the know plenty of lesbians are turnoff by their bisexuality and larp as what they're not

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm so baffled by bisexual women who call themselves lesbians.

Well, I can think of two understandable (if unfortunate) explanations for this phenomenon:

  • Having bought the standard there's-no-such-thing-as-bisexuality line, they assume that they must BE lesbians. Yes, even if they're aware of being opposite-sex-attracted too. Either they're more into women and "round themselves up" to lesbian, or they figure that it's a one-drop-rule sorta situation-- if a woman is attracted to her own sex at ALL, she obviously can't be straight, and therefore must be gay. Yeah, it's pretty dumb, but then again, so is the common wisdom that bisexuality doesn't exist.
  • They feel that there's a moral obligation to "stand up and be counted" as lesbian; that, if they call themselves bisexual, it's somehow cowardice-- taking the easy way out, and depriving lesbians of numbers that they (as a vulnerable minority group) need. Kind of like calling yourself black instead of white when you're of mixed-race ancestry. This probably has a lot to do with the widespread perception that bisexuals enjoy "heterosexual privilege". So there's both shame/guilt and a sense of duty involved. I know; I used to feel this way myself (though fortunately I never went so far as to act on it). Misguided, for sure, but at least the intentions here are good.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they figure that it's a one-drop-rule sorta situation-- if a woman is attracted to her own sex at ALL, she obviously can't be straight, and therefore must be gay.

That's definitely what I was taught when I was younger by the straight people around me. The gay community has no influence over the greater culture (as we have seen over and over again in recent years.)

They feel that there's a moral obligation to "stand up and be counted" as lesbian.

This is a new one for me, but it does have a logic to it.

The explanation frequently given by people here, "they want to be special and steal our shine," makes no sense. Lesbians get treated like shit. Bisexual women know this.

I've always used the rule people don't just do things, there's always a reason. If you refuse to try to dig into why other people are doing something, in their own logic, you'll never figure out a way to convince them to stop. If they think lesbians are weak and need their help, the way to stop them would be to demonstrate that lesbians are fine on their own.

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Autogynephilic bisexual men or straight men are NOT gay men

Gay male MTFs have autogynephilia too but it manifests in a completely different way. Gay MTF autogynephiles conform to extremely sexist gender roles like woman being submissive, woman being sexually receptive, woman being a sexual object. These delusional gays are attracted to like regular men, most of the "hyper feminine" MTFs are like this. Its a different from what you are seeing here.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gay MTF autogynephiles conform to extremely sexist gender roles like woman being submissive, woman being sexually receptive, woman being a sexual object.

I'm going to nitpick a little here, but by Blanchard's terminology, there's no such a thing as a 'HSTS AGP'.

In his theoretical framework, HSTS transition to catfish straight men, and so their 'femme persona' is built around what they think straight men find hot and desirable.

AGPs, on the other hand, transition to the image of women they find atractive, a key difference.

Both are extremely misogynistic though

[–]hufflepuff-poet 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There is nothing wrong with being bisexual. It is not the same thing as being a lesbian. These people are tiring, just say you're ashamed of being bisexual but wanna be part of the "kweer community".

Also, Lesbos is the island that "Lesbos" (Sappho) came from, Sappho was the female poet who wrote about same-sex attraction (not sure if she was lesbian because she also wrote poems about men)

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Both Sappho and Billitis would be considered bisexual by modern standards.

[–]schomee 14 insightful - 9 fun14 insightful - 8 fun15 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

I think sappho was just a sarcastic, bitchy lesbian. Historians mistook her for bisexual by taking everything she said literally. When asked if she had a husband, i think her response was: "yeah, and his name is dick mcdick johnson weiner the 3rd" and historians took that at face value.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

🤔

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 10 insightful - 15 fun10 insightful - 14 fun11 insightful - 15 fun -  (3 children)

I recently came out to my husband wife, told him her that I'm trans, and that therefore he she needed to come out again to his her parents as straight. But this allowed him her to open up to me, to tell me that he she was also trans. Therefore we are both lesbians. That means now we are going to have to come out to the in-laws as lesbians.

It's so liberating!! I can finally be myself!!

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 12 insightful - 15 fun12 insightful - 14 fun13 insightful - 15 fun -  (2 children)

Are you going to scissoring with your dicks?

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 8 insightful - 11 fun8 insightful - 10 fun9 insightful - 11 fun -  (1 child)

Yes of course. By "dicks" I assume you mean our lady sticks?

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 4 insightful - 9 fun4 insightful - 8 fun5 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

Sword fight!

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

these types of people always speak gibberish to me. like it's some tower of babel shit going on and i legitimately can't understand a word they're saying.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

LESBOS 👏 WAS 👏 A 👏 BI 👏 LESBIAN 👏

I think, the funniest thing I've ever seen someone say online.

[–]dramasexual 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

somebody needs to tell this person that lesbos is the name of an island

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 6 insightful - 8 fun6 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

Bi lesbian erasure! She was not an island!

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Excuse you, she identifies as an island, ergo, she is one. Get your facts straight!

[–]fuck_reddit 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Lesbos is a fucking island you perverted ingrate.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'm gonna take a guess and say these are two straight men who performatively insist that they like dick, specifically girldick, but in reality wouldn't be within fifty metres of another penis besides their own.

[–]distortedlindsLady Muse 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

YIIIKES