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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think we need to start profiling the individuals and their organizations that are behind hostile takeover actions like this. This is likely not their first rodeo and certainly not their last. By this I mean, looking into their history and any disparities between how they hold themselves out, what they say their goals are, who they are, and what they’ve done. The kind of stuff that Graham Linehan has been featuring on his substack. I bet there are a lot of skeletons in these entitled opportunists’ closets.

And I note that they almost never want to create their own infrastructure because they know if people had options, no one would choose to support them, so they seek to shut down or hijack and repurpose the organizations that are already in place and launch cancel campaigns against those who built them and have contributed so much to the community. It would also be a nice use of this space to feature some of our research on them here.

[–]BEB 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There was a 90s-era interview of trans activist(s?) in the New York Times in which trans activists admitted to targeting gay organizations to hijack and use (my words, not the interviewees) for trans' goals.

I've posted the interview on here before and will see if I can find it again.

Bottom line: trans activists deliberately Trojan Horsed gays and gay organizations, while using gays as sword and shield.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would like to see that for sure although I will say the kind of hostile takeover here in this story is of a very specific nature and following a pattern happening in a lot of places in the the U.S. right now.

Here it’s largely led by black queer/non-binary types (often aligned with or invoking so-called trans women of color, aka their fellow gay black men) and using race and adjacent issues to push out long-standing, older, white community leaders from the institutions they have led and built. So the hostile takeovers look very different here than in the UK where race does not appear to be a driving issue.
So it’s the live-action marrying of BLM and TWAW by power-seeking opportunists who never seem to have a vision for what they want to create, just what they seek to destroy or become theirs. I can get behind some aspects of some of their messages but I do not support the overall picture, and certainly not the means.

They are enabled by the wealthy white non-binary queer types including LGBs who don’t seem to realize they are the exact people being complained about. I’ve definitely noticed the pattern that the white “queers” who obsessively support this are furthest from the working class and the struggles being raised. They project their guilt and ignorance on others and contribute to their being no dialogue, only demands.

I see people starting to notice and who are whispering about needing to build new institutions once the hijacked orgs fail to carry out their original purpose but a lot of people are still in hiding and “we can’t say this out loud mode.” The seeds are being planted though. People are slowly looking at each other to see their reactions and testing the waters.