LGB VictoryRA apology to artist Jess de Wahls for removing her works for supposed ‘transphobia’. Gender woo woo crowd lost! Usually suspects now trying to cancel the Royal Academy(Lol, founded in 1768, good luck Ayden), with much anger over the Pride flag RA is using. Die mad, b!tches

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[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

From the article:

“If an artist denied Jewish, black or gay people’s identity, most people would say that the Royal Academy would be right to remove their works from the gift shop. But when Jess denies trans people’s identity, she and other trans critics say that it’s her right to free speech and she should not be penalised. This smacks of double standards.”

Bullshit. "Most people" might say that it's right to remove those works in that case, but that wouldn't make it right. Can't we just let the market decide? If people think this person is so terrible, they can avoid buying her work. That doesn't give them the right to disallow any other person from buying her work.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

People don't deny that Jews and black people exist.

[–]Midcentury[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t deny trans people exist. I just don’t think you can change sex. Obviously some people experience dysphoria, and that is a tragedy, but that doesn’t mean surgery or other medical interventions or completely upending our societies is the answer.

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, no one really denies that trans people exist, either. We just don't agree that TWAW/TMAM.

[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, yeah, but even if they did, I'd still say it's wrong to forcibly remove their works from being up for sale just because of that reason.

Obviously, a private company can do whatever they want and stock whatever they want in their shops, but just deciding to hurt this artist's livelihood over accusations is not right, regardless of what they're being accused of.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What does it mean to 'deny [insert person here]'s identity? Pretty sure Rachel Dolezal's black identity was roundly denied. Here in Canada, the arts community is on a bender to challenge the identity of anyone who claims to be indigenous without a solid pedigree. Most 'identities' have clear definitions that establish a barrier to entry for those who don't meet the threshold. Why should 'gender' be any different? There's no double standard.

Besides, de Wahl is supportive of people's right to medically transition, or present themselves however they please. She (like JK Rowling, and Maya Forstater), is merely pointing out that 'identity' doesn't alter biological reality and that sex-based rights matter.