Indoctrination / DoublethinkTrans acceptance will not be complete until forced sex from cis people is legislated

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[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 45 insightful - 22 fun45 insightful - 21 fun46 insightful - 22 fun -  (16 children)

To any trans "man" reading this: if you lie to me and you waste my time, and you keep up the lie until we’re both naked and in the same bed, it’s your own fault if I throw up all over you.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 38 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 0 fun39 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Many beating or murders of transwomen is exactly that, they tricked a man, and when man found out he is tricked - he is going agressive and violent.

[–][deleted] 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

The TRAs will later inflate these death counts as an "epidemic of trans violence" when in reality majority of MTFs die due to sex work or catfishing straight men. MTFs die mostly as a result of their own actions, not because the entire world is out to kill them

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 33 insightful - 3 fun33 insightful - 2 fun34 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Afaik majority of transgender people murdered in the world are prostituted transwomen who were murdered by men. Last year around 350 transgender people were killed, 170 of them were prostituted transwomen in Brazil (so almost half of all, and so reasoning was - catfishing and homophobia), around 5 were shot by cops during crime they were commiting, around 20-30 more were prostituted transwomen in other countries, and around 30 were murdered by another transwoman or by their male partner they were living with for long time (so domestic violence).

And as far as I know there were not a single murder of them due to transphobia, no one murdered them with reasoning "I hate trans people".

Number is very small too, 350 in a year? Just from Domestic Violence 350 women are murdered in world in one single week in world...

[–][deleted] 30 insightful - 5 fun30 insightful - 4 fun31 insightful - 5 fun -  (11 children)

Maybe these people need to realize sex work is the problem not their transness, but if sex work is criticized then an army of queer coomer morons and their female simps from r/TwoX will magically appear to defend it and they will scream "sex work is work" until everyone tired of them. Screaming sex work is work doesn't make it actual work.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 36 insightful - 2 fun36 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Screaming sex work is work doesn't make it actual work.

More like screaming that does not make it less exploitative. Because, slave work is a work too. And 10 year old kids mining cobalt is work too. Just because those "can be paid" and "is work" - does not mean those aren't forms of exploitation that they are something good.

[–]bopomofodojo 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And also it's one of the more dehumanizing late-capitalist arguments out there, and the sad part is it's usually made by "leftists" (in big quotes there).

"Well, I live in capitalism and capitalism sucks so selling my body as a camwhore should be legal" like, fuck off - you're reducing one of the last things about your humanity that isn't commodified into, what exactly, some sort of protest? Not only does it ignore the massive suffering in the sex trade by hiding it behind camgirls and OnlyFans "safe, clean 'sex work'", it justifies the very capitalist exploitation that they claim to be against, but only for the sex work. And it also ignores the very notions of "consent" that they claim to push - that any coercive sex is rape, except when it's economic coercion then it's OK, because it's their "free choice", but then in the same breath they'll repeat "there's no ethical consumption under capitalism", because all economic activity has a coercive element of "get money or die starving in a gutter". It's really sad.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean for fuck's sake, just because we as a society have normalized selling your body as a way to get money, doesn't mean we should accept that for perpetuity. We can raise our standards so that people aren't in poverty any more and don't feel like they have to resort to selling their bodies out of desperation. We as a society shouldn't ever feel like we have to sell our bodies as a last resort, period.

[–]usehername 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sex work is work the way that slavery is work. Okay, technically yes, but what's your point?

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sex work is work, but then again, so is child labour, so is slavery. Just because something is work doesn’t mean it’s good. And of course queer coomers are going to defend sex work because it’s usually the only way they can have sex.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's work, just really risky work where you can easily get STIs and be drugged, raped, and assaulted. Maybe you mean sex work is not exactly a career with much of financial future- because income goes down with age, which would be true.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

Well, sex work is work. What do you think it is?

[–]Shales123 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's rape

[–]bopomofodojo 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Specifically, because under capitalism, refusing to do work (any work, which under these "sex work is work" definitions now includes sex), results in starvation, homelessness, and death. It is both directly and indirectly coercive, and is thus rape by any reasonable definition.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Mmm, they aren't forced to do it. I don't see the rape. Maybe in a country like Thailand where a woman doesn't have much choice than this.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Poverty can affect people in developed nations too and lead them to making choices like doing sex work out of desperation. When we talk about how sex work is bad for society as a whole, part of fixing that is addressing economic inequalities.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Prostitution is a particularly dangerous profession.