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[–]Poppy29252Natal Cat Woman 20 insightful - 24 fun20 insightful - 23 fun21 insightful - 24 fun -  (0 children)

Nebularomantic relationships should be between one astronomer and one universe.

[–]shveya 27 insightful - 4 fun27 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

I wish the kids would go back into being into EMO or goth stuff for their high school phases.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

xD

[–]shveya 12 insightful - 10 fun12 insightful - 9 fun13 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

Raawr xD

[–]millicentfawcett 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Add rockers to make a it a trio and perhaps we can have a decent music era back at the same time.

Yes I know I sound old! :-)

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 11 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

Instead of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll , which was loads of fun, they went to onlyfans, hormones and the sound of offence

The future of humanity has never looked so grim

[–]grixit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The video for "Smells Like Team Spirit" predicted this mood.

[–]shveya 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know how you feel, I'm really into music from the 70's! :)

[–]motss-pb 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I keep seeing this word "neurodivergent". I feel like in our rush to validate every single label that comes along we just end up validating psychological disorders. So, gender identity disorder is validated as trans, and treatable conditions like depression or an underactive thyroid are being mislabeled and validated as asexual orientation. We also validate nonsense romantic orientations like "hetero-romantic homosexual" which is, in my opinion, a euphemism for internalized homophobia. Now, personality disorders like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and narcissistic personality disorder are validated as "neurodivergent". And, of course, neurodivergent (special-brained) people are discriminated against because the problem is externalized - their distress derives from a prejudiced and bigoted society, never from within. Yes, society should be able to accommodate people with psychological disorders, but not to the extent that we de-pathologize their conditions entirely.

[–]GayBoner 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We also validate nonsense romantic orientations like "hetero-romantic homosexual" which is, in my opinion, a euphemism for internalized homophobia.

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[–]strawberrycake 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It absolutely is. Back when I was a Tumblr kid, I thought I was biromantic homosexual. That was also when they said bisexuals and asexuals were oppressed by gay people under “monosexual privilege”. 🙄

[–]barnarnasis this tv show my friend? 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now, personality disorders like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and narcissistic personality disorder are validated as "neurodivergent".

Absolutely agree with your main point but the first two aren't personality disorders.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We also validate nonsense romantic orientations like "hetero-romantic homosexual" which is, in my opinion, a euphemism for internalized homophobia.

Or maybe simply an straight attention whore/ bissexual person who want to be only in straight relationships?

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My autism isn't your sexuality. Get the fuck out

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thank you!

Also neurodivergent always makes it sound like it's a choice or that autistic people started out 'normal' then diverged from that path. Neurotypical and neuroatypical are better terms (not to mention neurodivergent makes me think of new age-y transcendental shit).

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Neurodivergent sounds like it was made up after someone watched the Divergent series and wanted to feel special because they don't think they fit in with anyone they know in real life. "Ooh, I'm not a candor like you, I'm neurodivergent"

And I fail to see how confusing platonic relationships for romantic puts you on the Aromantic spectrum? I've had that exact experience and I know for a fact that it was me being stupid and new to romantic/sexual feelings since I was a teenager at the time and not because I have a unique sexuality to where I don't know whether I want to sleep with all my friends or not. If anything, shouldn't it be hyperromantic?

[–]justagaydude123 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was a teenager at the time

Ding! Ding! Ding!

[–]our_team_is_winning 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can't tell if someone wants to be friends or is romantically interested -- gee, nobody else has ever had that problem before. Must be some kind of "neurodivergent" condition that needs a made-up name.

You know that girl who was gushing over you and wanted your phone number right away but then never called? Or when you went out and kissed for ages, but then next time you saw her she wanted to be just friends? Or the one who hangs around a lot and you think "this person is into me" -- but then she says "Can I tell you something?" you get your hopes up, and she follows with "I'm having trouble with my girlfriend. I knew I could tell you because you're such a good friend."

Yeah, we don't have a medicalized name for that. People send mixed signals. They lead you on. They change their minds. Sometimes they just like the rush of you showing interest in them. Other times it's you being so hopeful that someone might be interested, so you see signals that aren't there. This is normal life for everyone.

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm willing to bet this person isn't even 'neurodivergent' either. Just unwilling to sort out the difference between romantic and platonic attraction because they'd rather speculate instead of actually talking to people. Or one of those assholes who chooses bullying and guilting people into sleeping with them rather than work on having an attractive personality. You aren't LGB. You're pathetic.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Their definition of nebularomantic is basically trying to do a woke rebranding of being really fucking clingy. It's like they're showcasing their personal issues up front but also presenting them as somehow being good. "Look at all these personality problems I have that I definitely don't need therapy for!"

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was thinking it was basically just polyamory but you're right lol... It sounds like a refusal to let friends be friends and getting clingy over people who just want to stay as friends.

Like... having mutually agreed fuzzy boundaries is perfectly OK but iff both / all parties agree.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Since when are poor social skills an 'identity'?

At least they're not cutting body parts off, I guess.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yet.

[–]MaxDefacto 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wtf… like this when are these people going to stop with toes nonsense?!

[–]ausernamee 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They're not saying "I can't tell if another person's feelings are romantic or if they're just platonic." They're saying "I can't tell if my feelings toward another person are romantic or just friend feelings." But that's not called nebularomanitc, it's called alexithymia. Research has shown 50-85 percent of autistic people having alexithymia. It's not a sexuality. That's like trying to say getting distracted during sex is a sexual orientation when you have out of control adhd. You can tell the alexithymia isn't a sexual orientation, because that same person has the same inability to understand/name emotions across the board, not just with romance. It has nothing to do with sex.

The same person who can't tell if they want to be friends or want to date can't tell if they enjoyed the first meeting at the knitting club or not. The fact that needing a million years to process every emotion you feel also applies to romantic and sexual feelings in the same way that it applies to all your feelings doesn't turn it into a sexual orientation.

Their sexual experience is bascially the same as everyone else's but with slower processing. The relationship is a pool. One person stick in their foot and then jumps in. Another person sticks in their foot and realizes it's too cold and says NOPE. Alexithymia would be you stick your foot in, hmm, you're not sure if it's too cold or not. Maybe you stick more limbs in and continue to consider it, maybe you you get it. After you're in, maybe you think you're gonna get out right away, but then you adjust and it's fine. Or maybe you thought it was ok, but it turns out it's too cold after all and you end up getting out despite at first not being sure and thinking you might stay in.

That might make you a bad partner for some people, and it might cause conflict with a partner who's a bad partner for you. But nothing about having it goes outside of regular courtship. To a certain extent, everyone needs to be won over. Someone with genius level emotional i.q. also doesn't decide on the first date every date "this is the man i'm marrying" or "i need to block this guy".

They are probably having a markedly different experience with engaging with their own emotions than a typical neurotypical person, but it's just not a dating or sexuality thing. Not knowing how you feel about someone is so much the norm that it's even sometimes used as a gender stereotype. When you see females stereotyped as not even knowing how to pick a boyfriend and you see men stereotyped as completely unaware of their feelings, how do you not see that this isn't exactly unique. It reminds me of demisexuals who also describe basic courtship and basic boundaries and basic communication and respect in a relationship as a special unique thing.

I don't get the need to flag that we have boundaries or that a kiss now doesn't mean you can take it for granted that i'm down to fuck as a special sexual orientation.

I wonder how this person would incorporate the fact that what they think is their sexuality is a clinical symptom of their brain wiring being outside of the norm into their identity.

Ok, now I'm imagining a neurodivergent person describing the thrusting motion of fucking as "stimming" and I'm giggling about it because that would obviously be pure nonsense. "You can tell i'm autistic because i like to rub on blankets and i like to rub on my necklace and i like to rub on cool glass and i like to rub on my genitals to the point of orgasm." No, one of those is just sex and nothing to do with autism.

It comes across as a little fetishizing of neurodivergent people to tie sexuality to autistic traits. "Oh, part of your coping mechanisms for your autism is you like to suck on things? Like what? Oh, you like to suck on ice cubes and always have candy on hand because the minty distracts you, and sometimes you suck on your necklace or chew the neck of your shirt or suck on your thumb like a 5 year old? oh yea, i remember thumb sucking, i can wrap my head around that's soothing for your autistic stress of the bright lights and loud noises. Wait, part of what you're attributing to your autism is your enjoyment of sucking dick? No, i'm pretty sure that now you're describing your autism fetish, not actual autism." i've seen these adult babies trying to play off their fetishes and immaturity as autism before. I can't say they are autistic or not, but autistic people can be have weird fetishes too.

Ok, now i see why people felt like this was pushing other's boundraries instead of reading it as a simple bad description of being ND. If you are in fact ND and you describe your neurodivergence in ways that could be confused for a non-nd person with a fetish, it's not an either or thing. Even if they are ND that's still kind of creepy becuase if they're not pretending to be nd to fetishize nd people then they're one of those nd people who don't understand boundaries enough that they make themselves out in ways that they seem like they have an nd fetish. My original inclination was to defend them with "alexithymia is a thing" but on second thought, this is pretty weird.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, I can't speak for everyone who's autistic, but personally, I don't think it's a typical autistic thing. While there are some autistic people who have sociopathy or alexithymia, it's a myth that autistic people don't feel anything or that most take a long time to feel anything emotionally. If anything, emotions can be strong, sudden, overwhelming, but they're not always expressed in the way neurotypical people express them, if that makes sense?

[–]ausernamee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm talking about being able to name feelings and tie meaning to them and interpret them in a neurotypical framework, not feeling feelings.

For example, i just watched a video with a girl who mistook her anxiety symptoms for arousal. She felt feelings, she was just unable to name which feeling it was or tell you what it meant in the context of the social situation. That's actually not that uncommon. Sometimes you think you're nervous, but it turns out your excited, or sometimes it goes the other way around.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, gotcha. That does make a bit more sense, if that's the case for her.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Right, so she's a straight woman with poor social skills who doesn't like casual sex. How is that a sexuality?

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I am super awkward. That has hampered some potential romantic encounters. Guess what? I lived and I am in a happy relationship now. I actually worked on issues I had and found someone who saw through my awkwardness and noticed how I show affection.

I didn't need a silly name to put in my profile 🙄 (that nobody even knows what the fuck it means!) Just be a guy or girl, gay straight or in-between. Damn don't make it so fucking difficult for yourself.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Plus awkwardness alone isn't enough to make someone neuroatypical. It needs to be pervasive in not just socialisation but other areas such as sensory processing, which these self-diagnosers conveniently forget. Never heard a self-diagnoser mention that they've had a meltdown or any of the other less quirky aspects of autism.

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes! I have never been diagnosed but the sensory overload is what made me consider seeking a diagnosis. In the end I figured I survived this long and learned how to avoid people or loud places. I deal with depression, mania, obsessions and compulsions too but again, I don't make them someone else's problem!

[–]grixit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

His cyborg implants add "transbot" to the list.

[–]Socialjustus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So she's just a normal girl on the autistic spectrum.

I hate how these predators target autistic people.