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[–]Criticallacitirc 26 insightful - 34 fun26 insightful - 33 fun27 insightful - 34 fun -  (1 child)

Fun Gay History Fact. Lesbians actually invented glory holes. Lesbians wanted dick badly but did not want the men attached to it. The solution was a board with a hole in it , to get the dick they craved while obscuring the man.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 22 insightful - 8 fun22 insightful - 7 fun23 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

😂😂😂💀💀💀

Really highlights the ridiculousness of TRAs homophobic talking points.

[–][deleted] 39 insightful - 1 fun39 insightful - 0 fun40 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I have to wonder what these people think it is about men that lesbians aren't attracted to if it's not the male sexual characteristics.

[–]usehername 22 insightful - 19 fun22 insightful - 18 fun23 insightful - 19 fun -  (0 children)

men no wear pwetty dwesses uwu

[–]gummybear 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

well, they are right. If you accept their premise "trans women are women" (which we did) then we're basically inferring we're creepy gender fetishists who are obsessed with genitals. A lot of gays and lesbians never really thought about what accepting their premise is. We thought if we lied to them out of sympathy, they would be grateful we were affirming their delusions. They immediately turned it around on us and called us subhuman perverts with no ability to love or form a relationship because our entire struggle, our civil rights movement was based on just wanting genitals. I guess to all the gays and lesbians who thought, "what's the harm"..well, there it is.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A lot of gays and lesbians never really thought about what accepting their premise is.

Well, 90% of transgender people at the time were HSTS, so it's no wonder they didn't considered this.

What didn't anyone expected was the boom in the amount of straight people transitioning in order to fulfill a fetish.

[–]gummybear 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i think the gay and lesbian activists of the past would never have dreamed of any heterosexuals wanting to be even within a 10 foot distance with homosexuals so they just took that issue of our community and its "space" for granted. We emitted some type of gay radiation that repelled everyone away and we all had our little magical narnia gay space which was our home and we could visit the heterosexual world as guests. It was probably beyond their conception to even think of having the prudence to defend our spaces.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They call us genital fetishists, but they want us to be pronoun fetishists. Considering which one I'm touching during sex, I'd rather be a genital fetishist (especially since that's an oxymoron and literally not possible)

[–]gummybear 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

and also, for a group of people who say others obsess about genitals, they sort of forget theyre the ones tying their entire gender to genitals and letting their gender determine their sex.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 29 insightful - 9 fun29 insightful - 8 fun30 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

These idiots might as well go hunt for a unicorn or a sasquatch while they're at it. We've clearly failed sex education if the word "lesbian" brings to mind anything other than "female who does not enjoy penises".

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 19 insightful - 10 fun19 insightful - 9 fun20 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

Suffice to say, trans women who haven't had bottom surgery are a dick-loving lesbian's dream nightmare

FIFY! :)

[–]Rage-Xion 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wasn't there a Magdalene Bern video where she says that activists want to redefine the word "lesbian" so that it no longer means "lesbian"?

[–]Athelhilda2 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

If it were possible for lesbians to like penis, I have be married a man right out of high school.

[–]MisandryFTW 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I like the sensation of penetration sometimes but the ejaculate is what helped me realize I'm a lesbian. Also they smell bad, get soft, are attached to a man...

I'll freely admit vulvas are weird too, but I'm sexually interested in them, which makes all the difference.

[–]ImSuperCerial 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Fucking galaxy brain level of thought right here.

"All lesbians want dick." Checks out. Got it.

[–]Shales123 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If it were possible for lesbians to like penis I would've never left Orthodox Judaism 😐

[–]No_ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bisexual.

That’s called bisexual

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (37 children)

Unpopular opinion but to be fair I don’t know why the strapon “lesbians” don’t go and date travesties already, it’s two jobs to get woman and then destroy her female body attaching phallic shit to her crotch. They could just get themselves a transbian. It makes sense in my head lmfao.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 39 insightful - 1 fun39 insightful - 0 fun40 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

This is such a weird comment for a lesbian to make. I think you're just projecting the way your body experiences pleasure onto others. That's no better than people saying that because they are attracted to both sexes and have a preference for one, that every straight or gay person chooses to be gay or straight.

Lesbians are attracted to women and women alone both when sex is occurring and when it isn't. Lesbians are attracted to female bodies, including and especially female genitalia. I don't know any lesbians who are attracted to sex toys whether or not they use them. Strap-ons are sex toys that are temporarily attached to women who have female bodies 100% of the time. The woman wearing it still has a vagina, vulva, breasts, a female skeleton with wider hips and butt, and other female sex characteristics. What penises and strap-ons have in common are that they are both shaped to fit inside a vagina and many women regardless of the sex or sexes they are attracted to experience pleasure from penetration. I don't know any lesbians who use dildos that are even shaped or made to resemble penises, but let me know if you do.

Many women orgasm from penetration and there are women who orgasm primarily from penetration. My girlfriend is in this latter category and is very obviously and indisputably a lesbian, definitely not attracted to men/male bodies, and would never be attracted to transbians who have obviously male bodies whether artificially altered or not. I also used to think women like her were a myth. In contrast, I'm incapable of orgasming from penetration alone so yea, strap-ons are not going to get the job done for me. Strap-ons/dildos and other sex toys are tools. No more. No less. Not evidence of attraction to biological males.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Poe's law might be at work here. Might be a troll rather than an actual lesbian.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She's been a user for 6 months and seems very legit.

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think you're just projecting the way your body experiences pleasure onto others.

Nope. I made an observation. The “all statements I don’t agree with must be projection” is getting old. But feel free to thinking whatever you like.

That's no better than people saying that because they are attracted to both sexes and have a preference for one, that every straight or gay person chooses to be gay or straight.

This have no correlation with what I said whatsoever.

Lesbians are attracted to women and women alone both when sex is occurring and when it isn't. Lesbians are attracted to female bodies, including and especially female genitalia. I don't know any lesbians who are attracted to sex toys whether or not they use them. Strap-ons are sex toys that are temporarily attached to women who have female bodies 100% of the time. The woman wearing it still has a vagina, vulva, breasts, a female skeleton with wider hips and butt, and other female sex characteristics. What penises and strap-ons have in common are that they are both shaped to fit inside a vagina and many women regardless of the sex or sexes they are attracted to experience pleasure from penetration.

Lol. I vibrator =/= strapon. Both are just toys? Yes. Are they the same? No. One mimics male anatomy (even if it doesn’t look like a human peepee) it’s still phallic thingy attached to your crotch. The other is a handed toy that won’t affect the appearance of female anatomy at all.

And btw you can have penetration with vibrators... actually you can have penetration with finger, toys, and even a fucking hand. Women who do the strapon thing do it because they like it, not because without strapon there’s no sex to be have. That’s another thing, it is very annoying when women like you act as if liking penetration means you must like and do strapon shit. As if strapon is the only possible way you can be penetrated.

I don't know any lesbians who use dildos that are even shaped or made to resemble penises, but let me know if you do.

I don’t know what this has to do with anything since I never talked about sex toy shapes in my previous comment but I’ll answer anyways: no. But I sure would rather a woman handing a toy that resembles a human penis on me while I can see her womanly body and the beautiful female anatomy than a futuristic/abstract thing attached to the crotch making her look like some alien frankenstein male, yes. But if I can choose, and I can, I choose none. 😎

Many women orgasm from penetration and there are women who orgasm primarily from penetration.

I can orgasm from penetration myself as long as my clitoris is being worked simultaneously. So sorry, you didn’t rock my word with this never seen before piece of information.

I also used to think women like her were a myth.

Also? In my previous comment I never said a thing that could lead you to think I believed such women are a myth. Because I don’t. I didn’t even talked about penetration, I talked about strapon. If you think penetration cannot exist without strapon that’s on, not on me. If you thought women orgasming from penetration is a myth that’s on you, not on me. There’s no “I ALSO”. If anyone is projecting, I would say it’s you.

In contrast, I'm incapable of orgasming from penetration alone so yea

Sorry I guess?

So I stand by my opinion still. As I said in my previous comment it’s a unpopular opinion. No need to get all dense, I was having a good laugh and still am. You can disagree and move on but you won’t (effectively) lecture me nor change my mind on my wrong opinion.

[–]emptiedriver 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

One mimics male anatomy...The other is a handed toy that won’t affect the appearance of female anatomy

But I sure would rather a woman handing a toy that resembles a human penis on me while I can see her womanly body and the beautiful female anatomy

have you ever actually tried a strap on? You have a lot to say about how things visually appear, but when you're in the moment all that really matters is how things feel, and if she has the skin, smell, touch, lips, body, eyes, back... of a woman, and you're climaxing, you might take advantage of technologies now and then. No one needs to use vibrators, but, on the other hand, sometimes they're fun. That's how most people who've used strap ons feel about them. It just gives you another option.

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

have you ever actually tried a strap on?

Have you not actually read my comments mate? You already have your answer.

but when you're in the moment all that really matters is how things feel

Speak for yourself. If that’s you good for you. I like to watch my woman when I’m fucking.

No one needs to use vibrators, but, on the other hand, sometimes they're fun. That's how most people who've used strap ons feel about them. It just gives you another option.

Yeah. I agree anyone can fuck however they please. Just like anyone can think whatever they think. Many of the answers to my main comment are really good examples of why the strapon thing annoys me. Read them. From the women saying shit like they like strap on bc ‘just bc they are homosexual doesn’t mean their vagina doesn’t work’ Doesn’t that imply not using strapon means your vagina doesn’t work? Or worse, women who don’t like penetration at all means their vagina doesn’t work? (Doesn’t sound a lot different from lesbophobic hets saying lesbian sex isn’t real sex, unless there’s strapon) To women implying again and again, you can’t have penetration without strapon, by saying “b-but I penetration, some women like penetration”..

(Not talking time you individually) but if you do strapon it is because you like, own it. Quit the penetration argument. And quit playing the spokeswoman for women who like penetration. And stop implying sex between women is either strapon or eating “pussy” or that must have something wrong with women who don’t do it. These are things EVERY strapon woman say everywhere, every time the topic is strapon.

I wouldn’t mind these people IF they didn’t throw generalizations left and right about lesbian sex and penetration. These generalizations are always associated with all lesbians in the end of the day.

[–]howdidthishappen 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Tbh your comment has the same vibe as any “transbian” calling his dick a “bio strap on” while endlessly wondering why no lesbian wants it. Or any regular pervert who can’t fathom how it’s possible that some lesbians like penetration, while they still, again, don’t want his dick.

It’s weird as hell to see the same thing said by a lesbian. Guess I’m only a “lesbian”, because phallic objects in my vicinity don’t make me violently vomit or whatever your bar is to actually being a lesbian.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Probably a troll rather than a lesbian.

[–]howdidthishappen 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Idk she’s been a regular user for a while. Maybe just the opposite of the „Suck a dick, be a lesbian“-lesbian. So the „If you like eating bananas you aren’t a lesbian.“ -lesbian lmao

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

A strapon isn't a penis any more than a vibrator is. It won't get you pregnant.

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Strap isn’t a penis but it does ruins female anatomy. And if female anatomy doesn’t matter at all for you to get off then I have news for you..

Also, what a dumb arguments this one of yours. A strapon is not a vibrator neither. And the fact that you can’t get pregnant from both doesn’t mean shit. A woman can’t get pregnant from a sterile male neither. Does that mean a sterile male is the same as a vibrator?

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So lesbians might as well be fingered and have their pussies eaten by men too? After all men have fingers and mouths.

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What this has to do with me saying strapon and vibrators are not the same think and how it invalidate me stating strapon and vibrators are not the same just because neither of them get a woman pregnant?

You do seem to have a hard time maintaining focus with me, why don’t you address my answer to your comment? You had a lot of assumptions, I answered all of them and explained my pov. Won’t you answer to me now that all you have is my actual take on the subject rather than your blind assumptions about me personally?

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fam, this isn’t a high school debate. No point in responding to each unique way in which you misconstrued the core elements of my own comments based on flawed logical reasoning, and somehow convince yourself in the process that I’m the one denying the realm of possibilities in which various lesbians can and do have sex and get off. Particularly when you didn’t substantively respond to all the points I and others raised. I’m not the one who’s saying that lesbians who experience pleasure or orgasm from the specific type of penetration for which a strap-on is necessary (or among a limited range of similar possibilities) might as well fuck the men who want to wear their skin.

Nor am I denying the way in which your body gets off. Like what? I enjoy some penetration too but don’t get much out of penetration by strap-on specifically because out of the various types of penetration in existence that I was apparently supposed to provide an encyclopedia of in order to provide an acceptable response, that’s not the kind of penetration that does it for me. And as I mentioned I’m personally incapable of getting off from penetration (of any kind) alone. None of this is a denial of any lesbian’s own experience.

So continue your strap-on free sex life, let’s leave this looney tunes thread behind, and let’s just all move the hell on.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Strap isn’t a penis but it does ruins female anatomy.

Yeah, I stopped reading when you tried to shame lesbians why like penetrative sex with toys. "YoU cAn'T bE a ReAl LeSbIaN uNlEsS yOu OnLy UsE yOuR fInGeRs"

I mean yikes, I have news for you: there's tons of fun toys for that sorta thing that in no way resemble a penis.

[–]julesburm1891 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

fratboylogic

Some of us only like females but also enjoy penetration. (Just because we’re homosexuals doesn’t mean our vaginas don’t work.) I don’t ever want a dick around me, but something that doesn’t destroy my partner’s wrist, allows her to kiss me during sex, is detachable, and feels good is alright. Furthermore, you’re ignoring that those of us who are okay with strap-on sex sometimes only like females and only want to eat pussy.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 12 insightful - 19 fun12 insightful - 18 fun13 insightful - 19 fun -  (0 children)

I'm learning so much about lady parts today.

[–]dramasexual 17 insightful - 7 fun17 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

This is the most bizarre comment lmao. Is this a troll, an insecure virgin, or just a lesbian who doesn't like strap-ons and is incredibly stupid? You decide!

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Further to my other comment, do you see the problem with the converse of what you’re saying? That is the rhetoric that gay men should be attracted to biological females who wear strap-ons. If this were the case, many gay men and lesbians could frolick into the sunset together never having to worry about homophobia again unless they were to, you know, choose to indulge our fetishes for natural, biological sex parts.

[–]gummybear 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

It's amazing to me how these little assholes never have to practice what they preach. You will never meet a more homophobic man than an "AGP transbian". The disdain they have for gay males is intense and so is their sexual revulsion towards them. But they sit there like philosophers pontificating as to why lesbians simply cant accept his "girl dick". Notice how these heterosexuals simply change their "gender" but they never have to break their heterosexuality? But they expect us to break our homosexuality? So their sexuality is never even touched. They expect us to convert but there's no sexual conversion on their part.

A straight man with a wig wants to fuck a woman. He's still a straight man attracted to a woman. A straight woman with a vagina wants to fuck a man. She's still a straight women attracted to males. Their attraction is never questioned or interrogated. Theyre tasking people to do things they would never do to themselves.

Theyre still heterosexuals expecting homosexuals to accommodate them.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Notice how these heterosexuals simply change their "gender" but they never have to break their heterosexuality? But they expect us to break our homosexuality? So their sexuality is never even touched. They expect us to convert but there's no sexual conversion on their part.

Yes, THIS! And, to put it another way: these straight people feel entitled to sexually pursue others based on biological sex, while forbidding homosexuals to do the same-- no, YOU must be attracted to "gender identity". We need to call out this double standard, and start telling these gender-based-attraction-for-thee-but-not-for-me hypocrites: you first. After all, charity (and ostensible love of-- barf-- girldick/boipussy) begins at home.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

these straight people feel entitled to sexually pursue others based on biological sex, while forbidding homosexuals to do the same. . . . gender-based-attraction-for-thee-but-not-for-me.”

You are so good at distilling down the genderfuckery to their underlying “logic.” Allowing only trans people open sex-based attraction while everyone else gets held to the standards of gender-identity-based on Self-ID attraction. And it’s everyone else who’s obsessed with genitals and has a fetish, and also sex-based attraction by non-trans people is the only “fetish” or “kink” that is permissible to shame.

[–]gummybear 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for articulating what i said in a more concise way. Again, it's just something that always rubbed me the wrong way because i knew these narcissists would never be able to or even deign to submit to the pressures they feel entitled to inflict on their targets.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So since dysphoria as it is currently being used means fuck all, we should try saying without any elaboration that transbians’ penises and gaydens’ vaginas make us feel dysphoric. Why can their genitalia give them but not us dysphoria? Especially when so many transbians have said they only want “cis lesbians” because their fellow transbians’ penises give them dysphoria.

[–]gummybear 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

i've perused through ftm and mtf subreddits and their dysphoria seems less like a medical condition and more like a feeling that comes and goes based on how people treat them. They seem to desire a certain dynamic and be seen a certain way. The lower our boundaries are, the less they feel the need to transition. Which means theyre not really having some internalized problem but transforming themselves to pursue an object. And if they can acquire the object (gay or lesbian) without much effort, then they will. You'd think the dick would cause the man dysphoria but i guess it really doesnt. It's lesbian rejection that gives him dysphoria.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The lower our boundaries are, the less they feel the need to transition.

This is consistent with my observations, particularly on the heterosexual FtM side. I have also noted it among homosexual MtFs for whom sexual access to men they perceive as straight seems to drive a lot of their transition decisions. A lot get told “if you didn’t have a penis, then it wouldn’t be a problem” by men they don’t seem to grasp are trying to let them down as easily and non-confrontationally as possible without meaning it. It seems that many of them don’t have any issue with their genitalia other than the hindrance they believe it poses to them finding a fulfilling relationship. As someone said on here recently, “they want to be seen as chicks, not chicks with dicks.” Hence it is other people’s perceptions of them that drive transition decisions including and especially the decision to get genital surgery. It’s strange because I can understand not wanting to be fetishized but at the same time their is so much commentary about not wanting men to be attracted to their penises. It destroys the illusion that they are with a straight man and if they’re not with a straight man than there is too high a risk that they’re not being seen as a woman. With all of this hyperfixation on other peoples’ perceptions, no wonder they’re dysphoric.

A while back someone on here or s/GC linked a video of an Australian HSTS and I found his YouTube channel to be a fascinating (but also sad and other times angering) look into his mindset. In the linked video, he was complaining about dating as a TW. His other videos revealed that he had no discomfort with his genitalia, only wanted genital surgery to attracted straight men, didn’t even know what female genitalia looked like, and had a friend tell him that the photos he was using as a model for his surgically altered genitalia was terrible and didn’t look anything like female genitalia, and he apparently had no idea.

As an aside: He complained in a video about a situation where he stealthed a straight man and revealed his male status right before sex was about to occur, which did then occur after the man was taken aback, and the next day the man said he felt extremely uncomfortable with what happened and didn’t want to see him again and he acted incredulous and like he was the one who had been wronged. Total lack of empathy. Wish I could find this channel again.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A while back someone on here or s/GC linked a video of an Australian HSTS

not this one im guessing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5CPV60uJbA

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope not that one but thanks anyway.

[–]gummybear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

what you mentioned hasnt been brought up on here and it's an important point because after talking to them for a while, they seem to present an essentialist view that it's medical. The people i've argued with (ftm) give an essentialist view of transexualism which i know isnt true. These ftm straight women posing as gays probably the most ridiculous thing out of all cases as if nature is going out there making "gay men" and trapping them inside straight women's bodies.

I said that she couldnt possibly be gay and people like her never existed back in the day. That she was listing strange stereotypes about what it means to be a gay man and she was relating to a social identity but that's not what being gay was. The culture comes last. It didnt matter what the culture was, it flows from whatever the hell gay people say it is and that if gay people didnt exist, then her identity wouldnt exist. She responded with, "even if i was on an island with no contact from any other human being, i would know i'm gay because it's independent of society and culture" <-- an essentialist view. But i just dont buy it.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The culture comes last. It didnt matter what the culture was, it flows from whatever the hell gay people say it is and that if gay people didnt exist, then her identity wouldnt exist.

Yes. All in all, I identify with little of gay or lesbian culture. In part it is because I came out later so I did not grow up within gay spaces or around a lot of gay people. But another part of it was that I didn’t identify with what was being presented to me as “gay” or “lesbian” and so I thought what I was feeling must be something else. And “bisexual” did not seem accurate either.

It took me a longass time to meet a single out lesbian and even longer to meet one I could relate to. The FtM’s idea that she “would know she’s gay” even if she never met another human being seems ludicrous and mirrors the transbians saying they knew the heterosexual sex they were having was “queer” or that they loved women in a “queer” way. Nothing feels “queer” about my sexual or romantic interactions with women. I’m just very attracted to women on a visceral and psychological level. But it just feels normal and natural, not queer. I feel none of that toward men. I have no drive or interest beyond friendship. I feel like if I had not been presented with pervasive examples of heterosexuality in my life it would never have occurred to me that I should try to partner with a man.

It’s the sum of this that makes me know I’m gay. But I did need to be shown what it looked like for two women to be together in order to recognize my feelings as indications that I was exclusively attracted to women and should actively partner with women (and not just think about it). I never “felt gay.” I still do not “feel gay.” I have zero internal feeling of gay identity. A lot of the time I don’t even think of myself as gay or lesbian or include myself mentally when I hear those words. I definitely don’t think “we” when I hear “the LGBT(Q) Community” and feel even more isolated from it by the day.

The idea that if you’re gay you just know independent of anything else was harmful to me. And it’s also a total nonsense. And if you have an internal gay identity but you are not homosexual and are in fact heterosexual, no fucking wonder you feel dysphoria from trying to utilize tired stereotypes to shove yourself into a box that was not meant for you.

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not the same. I assume there’s nothing a fake penis can do that a real penis can’t do but there are things a real penis can do that a fake penis can’t do.

[–]emptiedriver 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

so maybe that's a plus to lesbians? whatever those distinctions are in your mind, they may be exactly why some women like using a strap on but would not like a transvestite. How is that hard to understand in one direction but not the other?

[–]bradjohnsonishere2 13 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

this opinion is unpopular because it's dumb lmfao

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

…. Bizarre take. Lesbians aren’t attracted to sex toys, we’re attracted to females, and the sex toys are just something fun to throw in. I don’t personally get much pleasure out of penetration, but a lot of women do, and a sex toy can be a good way to stimulate that aside from just fingers. There is a big difference between a plastic object and a male sex organ… like you can’t be serious right? Would you argue the same for gay men who like being penetrated? That they should just go find some straight woman to peg them? No because that’s fucking ridiculous. Let’s use our brains here.

[–]hunther 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

I don’t know why the strapon “lesbians” don’t go and date travesties already

I don't want to fuck a whole ass male. Also you can totally detach a strap on and eat her pussy afterwards. Can't do that with a male unless you want to castrate the man.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Can't do that with a male unless you want to castrate the man.

Then you'd just be licking his wounds :X