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[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is exactly the problem with being "nonbinary." It's just, "it sucks being a woman, so if I just say I'm 'not a woman,' then all of my problems that are related to me being a woman go away." Instead of deciding that you're going to live your life however you want and not let anyone call you less of a woman because of it, you say, "What has gender ever done for me?" and toss your womanhood into the trash.

Same with nonbinary males and manhood. It's okay to eschew traditional gender roles and still consider yourself a man or a woman. Hell, I can spend one evening crocheting, the next day hiking, the next evening at a hockey game, and the following evening baking cookies for my friends, and I've never once thought, "Wow, I guess I must be neither man nor woman because I do things that are stereotypically associated with both genders!" I'm just a man who likes what I like and lives how I want to live and surrounds myself with people that care for and about me regardless of the things I do.

The other problem here is that you can't just "get rid of your womanhood" like that by proclaiming you're nonbinary, anyway. Those women in this post are still going to be perceived as women by the rest of the world and the rest of the world is going to act toward them like they are women. Just own your womanhood and own being a lesbian and throw up the middle finger to anyone that says women can't be this or that. It's so infuriating to see people getting caught up in this bullshit, and indoctrinating their small children into this bullshit as well.

[–]AugustiJade 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Exactly. I thought we were getting even closer to tearing down gender norms, and then this shit just reversed all of that.

[–]bopomofodojo 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm fully convinced this gender stuff is some sort of reaction (intentional, unintentional, conscious, unconscious, I don't know) to the gradual wearing away of gender norms in the 90's and 00's. I'm still trying to make heads or tails of the why, but it definitely seems like a societal crackdown on GNC, focusing instead of changing the "gender" part rather than the "roles" part. So instead of "men" and "women" who don't conform to their gender, we have "genderfluid" and others adhering (or, more precisely, not adhering) to strict gender roles. It's completely reactionary, disguised as "more progressive". CRT is the same vis-a-vis "colorblindness".

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This seems like it has a lot of merit to it.